All social media?
"Yes, I 'liked' a video starring 'Isis' on Pornhub 10 years ago but I swear it's not what you think!"
Imagine filling in those usernames, hilarious
U.S. To Seek Social Media Details from All Visa Applicants
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#292One thing to know is that apparently the reason for having seemingly idiotic questions on immigration forms ("are you a terrorist?", "are you a nazi war criminal?") is not that the government is stupid but rather that they're there in order to be able to deport someone for answering the question incorrectly in the event that the government wants to deport them but lacks sufficient evidence to pursue a criminal case.…
yeah, i think that's probably true.
a police officer once told me that there are thousands of laws in the vehicle code, and, if the police want to pull someone over legally, all they have to do is follow their car for a few blocks or so. sooner or later, that driver will violate a law.
that's a standard technique available to all types of law enforcement officers in the US.
and, yes, there's a lot of discretion in the hands of the police, just as for prosecutors. this is either a strength or a weakness, depending ...
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#293Your wife forgets to list that yahoo mail account to which she no longer has access and everything is deleted: family gets deported.* You forget to list that LiveJournal, Advogato or Quora accounts: family gets deported.* Your daughter forgets to list that Pinterest account: family gets deported.* Your son forgets to list that last.fm or SoundCloud account: family gets deported.* Your mom forgets her Academia.edu acc…
Under what conditions would any of these events actually occur? The government isn't going to waste resources to deport someone solely for forgetting an account; they would only go to such effort if there's another reason that they actually care about to deport that person.
> Under what conditions would any of these events actually occur?
Someone with friends in high places decides he doesn't like your ugly face.
So long as that doesn't happen, the government will ignore the omissions you made in the visa application. But now they have a pretext for deporting you as soon as they feel like it.
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#294Earlier quoted context omitted.
Also, the United States hasn't historically always given constitutional rights to non-citizens living in the United States.
Right, and the areas around the border have been called by the ACLU "Constitution-free zones". Basically the government says if you're within 100 miles of the border and have crossed or are likely to cross, your Constitutional rights no longer exist. It's really fun stuff.
more about the 100 mile zone here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_search_exception
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#296Ugh. First, fake profiles are not only possible, they are trivial. So if you correctly state you don’t have a profile on X, and they find one anyway...do you think they’ll bother to tell you why you were denied? No, you’ll just be silently blacklisted for what “you” do online.
Social networks are also run by companies, not the government. They need to just stop expecting us to interact with a tiny number of specific companies (it’s “big 3” credit reporting all over again, only somehow worse).
And finally, can we stop treating potential immigrants so poorly!?!? There are enough rules, forms, fees and delays already; how many more things do they really need?
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#297So will this be the case for ESTA visas too?
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#298Pretty absurd that they're asking for all of this and: > [...] In addition to their social media histories, visa applicants will be asked for five years of previously used telephone numbers, email addresses, international travel and deportation status, as well as whether any family members have been involved in terrorist activities. I know a number of people going through, or have been through, the US visa process an…
> surely if this is required, applicants are going to drop.
That's the point.
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#299Earlier quoted context omitted.
Conversely, it makes running an opposition campaign so easy that the opposition won't need to focus on the big issues. The opposition could focus on morality and pay lip-service to neoliberal diversity theatre while simultaneously selling out to corporate interests. If you're running against Trump in an election, what's the point of drawing the ire of industry (pharma, insurance, military, surveillance, general big-c…
The fundamental issue, I see, is the polarizing platform. When it comes to modern day discourse you're not looking at a nuanced debate, you're just seeing pro and anti. I don't even need to cite a source, you just need to look at the division in the world around you and wonder why it looks so fucking simple. Nobody is focusing on big issues because everybody is being told to look for an attack or to make a defense. I…
Your first paragraph is so spot on IMO, that it frightens me.
We, as free thinking, reasonable people are continuously drawn into hyper-polarized debates, particularly on social media: There is no nuance (as you said), only pro vs anti (as you said II). It also seems fairly systematic, and that we are clearly being kept busy with these "debates" while we are flanked and maneuvered on.
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#300On another site I've read it includes passwords too. This is surely a joke, right?