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U.S. To Seek Social Media Details from All Visa Applicants

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Post by ljm »

opportune wrote: post #175
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One nice thing about having a President with 50%+ disapproval [1] is all the things that got swept under the rug, previously, can now be made alarming. This might be an unintended way the system clears detritus and scope creep. [1] https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/...

Conversely, it makes running an opposition campaign so easy that the opposition won't need to focus on the big issues. The opposition could focus on morality and pay lip-service to neoliberal diversity theatre while simultaneously selling out to corporate interests. If you're running against Trump in an election, what's the point of drawing the ire of industry (pharma, insurance, military, surveillance, general big-c…

The fundamental issue, I see, is the polarizing platform. When it comes to modern day discourse you're not looking at a nuanced debate, you're just seeing pro and anti. I don't even need to cite a source, you just need to look at the division in the world around you and wonder why it looks so fucking simple. Nobody is focusing on big issues because everybody is being told to look for an attack or to make a defense.

It's an old book but I recommend reading Flat Earth News by Nick Davies, it gives an incredible insight into how current affairs are spun into particular forms to suit certain agendas. The key motif of the book is that there are more than two sides to every debate but we treat it as gospel that you're either for or against. It's never so easy as that.

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Post by iampims »

stale2002 wrote: post #80
tzahola wrote: post #53

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Hacker News??? [ENTRY DENIED]

Legit there was a tech bootcamp called hacker school that had to change their name because the FBI kept bothering them.

I believe it’s known as recurse center now.

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Post by 928jf0923 »

saagarjha wrote: post #199
bambax wrote: post #179

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Yes, it's not Trump, it's the US. I will probably never visit that country again, and I don't much care; but, I'm kind of sad for my kids. That said, the world is a big place. Let's hope not every other country does the same.

I’m curious: where do you live?

https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=bambax

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Post by Silhouette »

I literally do not know every email address I have used in the past five years. I typically make up a new one for every business that asks for one. Likewise for the occasional throwaway account on discussion forums if I'm discussing anything controversial or where my own identity might compromise someone else's position that they don't want to be publicly associated with.

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Post by asciimo »

bambax wrote: post #174
ajeet_dhaliwal wrote: post #6

When the United States does something like this others start doing it too, sometimes seemingly just to reciprocate or spite. The US contributes so much to the world with respect to tech, business, culture and science but it’s also an exporter of increasing bureaucracy.

> bureaucracy I wouldn't call it bureaucracy, but I don't know of a proper, better name. Hysteria maybe. Not sure.

Xenophobia?

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Post by dboreham »

paxy wrote: post #141
dboreham wrote: post #58

One thing to know is that apparently the reason for having seemingly idiotic questions on immigration forms ("are you a terrorist?", "are you a nazi war criminal?") is not that the government is stupid but rather that they're there in order to be able to deport someone for answering the question incorrectly in the event that the government wants to deport them but lacks sufficient evidence to pursue a criminal case.…

This is such a stupid explanation. Do people really think the government is going to go "You're a terrorist, but we can't deport you for that. But look here, you checked this form wrong.."

Actually yes. I wasn't making it up. If you Google search on this you'll find lots of supporting evidence. The reason for the stupid questions is to be able to retrospectively take action based on incorrect answers being given.

E.g. http://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1141917

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Post by dboreham »

Sir_Substance wrote: post #169
dboreham wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, kind of. Probably not in the context of immigration scissors stone paper games though.

>Yes, kind of. In theory, but historically speaking not really: https://scholarship.law.georgetown.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?r... But then again, it doesn't seem to work very well for US citizens these days either.

For clarity: the doc you cite says what I said (at least that's my interpretation) -- that non citizens have much the same constitutional rights as citizens. But they have to be living in the country (so-called US Persons). Hence it doesn't do you much good in the context of getting into the country. Source: I was a US Person for a while.
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