Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

U.S. To Seek Social Media Details from All Visa Applicants

bloomberg.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

61–70 of 439 posts

Re: U.S. To Seek Social Media Details from All Visa Applicants

#61

Post by Swizec »

fibers wrote: post #45
Swizec wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> visa applicants will be asked for five years of previously used telephone numbers, email addresses, international travel and deportation status, This has already been the case for at least 4 years. Every visa I’ve ever had asked me to fill out which countries I’ve visited in the past 5 years and whether I was ever deported.

That is significantly different than disclosing social media profiles and different emails. One (filling out travel information) makes sense because...uhhhh...you're crossing another border so it makes sense to disclose previous travel history that coincides with your stamp book on your passport. The other is uhhhh irrelevant to travel information?

I agree, just pointing out that this isn’t new. GP comment implicated that it is.

Re: U.S. To Seek Social Media Details from All Visa Applicants

#62

Post by scottybowl »

dmode wrote: post #32

Trump administration has been increasingly hostile to legal immigrants, so this doesn’t surprise me one bit. Everyday there is a new policy change in USCIS designed to screw immigrants, whose only crime is working on high paid jobs. I am on the verge of losing my work permit after having lived here for 12 years and working in high tech jobs in leading companies.

Why do you deserve a job over a resident with equal skills?

Re: U.S. To Seek Social Media Details from All Visa Applicants

#63

Post by ceejayoz »

scottybowl wrote: post #46
roywiggins wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And your contribution to the discussion is...?

More than your contribution of idle parroting of the current trend of creating division between the sexes and races. Why does an opinion need to be masculine or feminine?

> Why does an opinion need to be masculine or feminine?

Uh, that was the point of the comment you called "virtue signalling". It was critical of the idea that international cooperation is "feminine weakness".

Re: U.S. To Seek Social Media Details from All Visa Applicants

#64

Post by [deleted] »

bsder wrote: post #30
Someone1234 wrote: post #24

People I've spoken to seem more comfortable acting like this is part of the current administration's agenda, rather than an encroaching trend which has been gradually getting worse year upon year. For example this specific policy was added as an "optional" (not really) question on an entry form before the 2016 presidential elections (I know, I wrote a letter protesting it during public comment period). My point is: B…

> My point is: Both Democrats and Republics have been complicit in allowing these kind of activities to continue. And the American public would sooner blame the other "side" in this political dog and pony show, than take responsibility for this being what America's fear based society has brought. Stop pushing this "both sides are the same" narrative. It's part of the damn problem. While the Democratic administrations…

[deleted]

Re: U.S. To Seek Social Media Details from All Visa Applicants

#67

Post by scottybowl »

ceejayoz wrote: post #63
scottybowl wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More than your contribution of idle parroting of the current trend of creating division between the sexes and races. Why does an opinion need to be masculine or feminine?

> Why does an opinion need to be masculine or feminine? Uh, that was the point of the comment you called "virtue signalling". It was critical of the idea that international cooperation is "feminine weakness".

Who said that international cooperation is feminine weakness other than the guy who wrote it? Having a thought doesn't make it a reality.

Re: U.S. To Seek Social Media Details from All Visa Applicants

#68

Post by nbdev »

scottybowl wrote: post #35
cryoshon wrote: post #15

>The department estimates it would affect 710,000 immigrant visa applicants and 14 million non-immigrant visa applicants, including those who want to come to the U.S. for business or education, according to the documents. this will hurt business. this will hurt american companies. this will hurt the country. this will not catch any terrorists. this will not catch any serious drug traffickers. this will not be sociall…

I couldn't disagree more - this focuses on giving Americans a chance to get employment before anyone else. What's wrong with that? I'm a Brit and would love the same policy here.

This is why I hate HN. Someone here has an opinion that doesn't toe the line and instead of asking about the opinion, instead of considering he might be right in at least some way, we downvote to oblivion.

Bunch of assholes, really.

Re: U.S. To Seek Social Media Details from All Visa Applicants

#69

Post by adventured »

ajeet_dhaliwal wrote: post #6

When the United States does something like this others start doing it too, sometimes seemingly just to reciprocate or spite. The US contributes so much to the world with respect to tech, business, culture and science but it’s also an exporter of increasing bureaucracy.

I agree, this is very obviously a policy area where the US should be leading (or at least not setting new negative standards).

It's curious though, as the popular thing to claim today is that China is obviously the future. They're going to supposedly dominate everything, from AI to robotics to insert-tech-thing-here.

Article after article proclaimed that China would take advantage of Trump's immigration policies to do a massive global talent grab.

So what happened to that fraudulent premise? There are almost zero human rights in China. The few they had acquired, have increasingly been stripped back away.

So this social media grab is a massive problem for the US. Having zero rights in China means they're going to acquire all the world's talent and dominate the universe. Something certainly doesn't make sense in the storyline.

Re: U.S. To Seek Social Media Details from All Visa Applicants

#70

Post by justicezyx »

Someone1234 wrote: post #24

People I've spoken to seem more comfortable acting like this is part of the current administration's agenda, rather than an encroaching trend which has been gradually getting worse year upon year. For example this specific policy was added as an "optional" (not really) question on an entry form before the 2016 presidential elections (I know, I wrote a letter protesting it during public comment period). My point is: B…

Well, the US political structure was designed to make such things happen.
Post reply on HN