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Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It (2016)

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Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It (2016)

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ams6110 wrote: post #257
kragen wrote: post #155

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The bacon thing is maybe a good example of Hamming's Closed Door Paradox: I noticed the following facts about people who work with the door open or the door closed. I notice that if you have the door to your office closed, you get more work done today and tomorrow, and you are more productive than most. But 10 years later somehow you don't know quite know what problems are worth working on; all the hard work you do i…

Your chance of dying is 100%. I'd rather enjoy some bacon every once in awhile then worry about single digit variations in my chances of getting cancer. I do tend to buy uncured bacon anyway though.

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Post by tremendo »

ams6110 wrote: post #257
kragen wrote: post #155

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The bacon thing is maybe a good example of Hamming's Closed Door Paradox: I noticed the following facts about people who work with the door open or the door closed. I notice that if you have the door to your office closed, you get more work done today and tomorrow, and you are more productive than most. But 10 years later somehow you don't know quite know what problems are worth working on; all the hard work you do i…

Your chance of dying is 100%. I'd rather enjoy some bacon every once in awhile then worry about single digit variations in my chances of getting cancer. I do tend to buy uncured bacon anyway though.

Re: "uncured" is really also cured, but using celery powder which is a source of naturally occurring nitrates, vs "industrially extracted nitrites/nitrates". The result being the same, the same substance used to prevent spoilage. Incidentally Celery is also high in oxalates, so if you tend to accumulate those (kidney stones) you might be better off with actually "cured" products in comparison with "uncured"

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It (2016)

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Post by mygo »

evfanknitram wrote: post #265
mygo wrote: post #211

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facebook has this “trending” section where they show ~3 trending news headlines with a little blurb under each. It’s usually near the top. On the right sidebar on desktop. And yeah it’s often times very depressing headlines such as those. You don’t get that?

No I don't. I'm typically using Facebook app on android and I never see any news. Logged on to desktop version now and none there as well. Scrolled through about 100 items on my feed and the only thing I see are posts from friends and intermittent ads from companies which are "liked" by my friends. I'm guessing maybe it's because I'm in/from Sweden and they haven't set up newsfeeds for this place. I do see how showin…

> I do see how showing negative news to people would have affect on what people post.

Get this. Every single time you visit facebook, right above the fold is some depressing news. Every. Single. Time.

It has an effect on some.

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Post by npsimons »

wu-ikkyu wrote: post #204
npsimons wrote: post #185

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First and foremost, what evidence is there for Hamming's claim? > is worth a single disrupted morning. We're not talking about a single "disrupted" morning. We're talking about chronic depression, which can lead to suicide. Many people I tell that I don't keep up with current events like to claim I'm ignorant. At which point I ask them to name the most important thing they learned from news two weeks ago. Haven't had…

>I do not believe we receive knowledge from modern mainstream media today. Most of it is ephemeral drama that does not matter in the least. The "news" has been like that for a long time. "Nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper. Truth itself becomes suspicious by being put into that polluted vehicle. The real extent of this state of misinformation is known only to those who are in situations to confr…

> While Jefferson neglected to read newspapers, he read many books and was arguably one of the most important figures in the Enlightenment.

This is my goal. Well, at least being more erudite by reading books and research papers and ignoring the news. I think I missed my window on being an important figure in the Enlightenment.

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Post by whatyoucantsay »

kragen wrote: post #222
whatyoucantsay wrote: post #210

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> carcinogens such as sugar. Has any major medical body ever classified sugar as a carcinogen, or is this bro-science?

Yes. The World Cancer Research Fund commissioned a comprehensive review of cancer risk factors, signed off on by dozens of prominent scientists. They came up with ten key recommendations. One of them is, "Limit red meat and avoid processed meat." Another is, "Avoid high-calorie foods and sugary drinks." A third is, "Keep [body] weight low within the healthy range." Sugary drinks and obesity as risks for cancer are de…

I didn't mention obesity, which is definitely a risk factor.

Sugar is only partially correlated with obesity, and I have never seen anything implicating sugar itself with cancer outside of paleo / bro-science circles. Plenty of people drink multiple sugary drinks daily for decades without getting obese. Warren Buffet is a good example. So is most the population of Japan.

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Post by heurist »

aylmao wrote: post #130
RandallBrown wrote: post #62

Am I the only person that has a healthy relationship with social media? I use Twitter to follow interesting celebrities and industry professionals. (Adam Savage Mythbusters fame, pro climber Alex Honnold, several notable iOS programmers). I rarely interact with any of them, but I find out about lots of interesting things. I use Facebook to keep in touch with friends around the country. I can keep my dad updated to wh…

+1. I personally think this near-constant bashing of social media is getting ridiculous. These past two weeks have been all-in, article after article, non-stop. Is social media bad? You can definitely have a non-healthy relationship with it. But it didn't "break politics" [1] or "elect Trump" [2]. It was mostly just another vector for advertising. We've known of the privacy issues with Facebook for a while and the wh…

I'm not fan of conspiracy theories but that's where my head has been too. None of the Cambridge Analytica stuff is as bad for facebook as the media is asserting, and none of the data Cambridge Analytica acquired is available anymore through public APIs. Yet the New York Times is buying ads on facebook telling people how to quit facebook... Either news orgs don't understand the real issues (totally a possibility) or are using this moment of weakness to wrest some control back from facebook after facebook's blatant land grabs throughout the last decade.

I recall seeing editorials in the past (not NYT) about how facebook is kicking the feet out from under content producers by making facebook the only viable source for content. Producers began promoting their content through FB to reach a wider audience, but the audience has grown in a walled garden and now facebook has total control over what content is shown and what isn't, so are now charging producers to promote their own content. And fake news is prominent throughout social media. I can see why news organizations would want to fight both of those things. Feels pretty underhanded if that's what they're doing today though.

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Post by evfanknitram »

mygo wrote: post #273
evfanknitram wrote: post #265

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No I don't. I'm typically using Facebook app on android and I never see any news. Logged on to desktop version now and none there as well. Scrolled through about 100 items on my feed and the only thing I see are posts from friends and intermittent ads from companies which are "liked" by my friends. I'm guessing maybe it's because I'm in/from Sweden and they haven't set up newsfeeds for this place. I do see how showin…

> I do see how showing negative news to people would have affect on what people post. Get this. Every single time you visit facebook, right above the fold is some depressing news. Every. Single. Time. It has an effect on some.

Maybe you misread what I wrote. I wrote that I do understand this.

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Post by davvolun »

funkymike wrote: post #240
davvolun wrote: post #84

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> If I wouldn't do something in public, I wouldn't post it to social media. I've been thinking about this a lot lately in calling and sending emails to my government representatives, attending marches and protests. By definition, these are done in public; there's no point otherwise! But there's nothing preventing my employer from deciding they don't like what I'm putting out there and doing .. something about it. I d…

It's not just about keeping potentially embarrassing things off social media. Everyone has biases. If you post something political, religious, etc. that really isn't controversial, that may still lead a potential employee who sees it to pass you over, intentionally or not.

I think I understand what you're getting at.

Additionally, how would you even prove "well I didn't hire that person because they belong to the wrong political party" short of someone actually saying it and documenting it against themselves? Racial discrimination laws can be exceptionally difficult to enforce, as I understand it.

In an ideal world, what my employer thinks shouldn't affect my political actions. As usual, real and ideal are far apart.

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It (2016)

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Post by JDiculous »

I vehemently disagree with the assertion that all social media is a net negative on one's life.

First of all, there are many people who make a living off of social media, and HN itself is social media which for me personally has had a very positive impact on my life. But let's ignore this for a second.

Social media simply allows one to expand their network and influence way beyond what one could accomplish solely offline. This means being exposed to opportunities that one may have never encountered via p2p word of mouth alone, whether that be job postings, business opportunities, potential clients, business partners, knowledge, motivation, etc.

Social media of course can be a toxic waste of one's time (eg. the default Reddit homepage). Social media addiction is a serious problem that needs to be addressed. If you're compulsively checking your Facebook/Instagram every 5 minutes then that's probably a serious problem (unless you make a living off those platforms) that needs to be addressed. For the rest of us who maybe check it for 5-10 minutes in the evenings during our downtime, it's not really a big deal.

Also I'd imagine that the author is a huge recipient of the positive end of social media even if only indirectly, his blog articles and such being shared through social media in order to market his book. I discovered his work over a decade ago through his blog which I used to actively follow. So it's a little bit hypocritical of him to knock on bloggers. But I totally agree with his observation that as a whole we're losing our ability to focus, and social media addiction is a serious problem.

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