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Surgeons urge people to throw out bristle BBQ brushes (2016)

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Re: Surgeons urge people to throw out bristle BBQ brushes (2016)

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A trick I learned from a friend is to cover all the grills with sheets of foil, close the lid and heat the bbq to a high temperature for a short period of time and then remove the foil. Most of the crud should come off easily after that.

All I have ever done is give the BBQ a bit of time to heat up before I plan on actually cooking the food. A few minutes in high heat chars any remnants of the last BBQ session and then I just knock the stuff of the top with a spatula before throwing that day's food on.

Re: Surgeons urge people to throw out bristle BBQ brushes (2016)

#173

It's infuriating that articles about a problem like this don't spend just one single sentence on possible alternatives, even though the surgeons are begging. Fire the editor. Alternatives I've seen in this thread are a ball of wadded up aluminum foil, a wooden scraper, abrasive pads, and stiff plastic bristles (EDIT: and an onion). This proves once again that the HN comments section is often better than the article i…

Agreed that they should mention an alternative in the article.

Another article on the CBC from last summer has a good list of alternatives that I found helpful: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/bbq-cleaning-alternatives-bris...

Re: Surgeons urge people to throw out bristle BBQ brushes (2016)

#174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd say products that are only safe if used properly are unsafe products. Being safe is a perfectly good strategy for an individual, but it's asking for trouble on a societal level.

Is there a trade-off between safety and usefulness? Chainsaws, C compilers, C-4 ... Certain industries would be crippled without these tools. Safety training helps.

More of a trade-off between flexibility, cost, and safety.

Safety features tend to constrain or eliminate various uses, which may be needed in some cases.

Alternatively, safety features may be expensive (e.g., the mechanism that instantly stops a table saw when it touches flesh).

In some cases, great design can improve safety at low cost while retaining utility.

Re: Surgeons urge people to throw out bristle BBQ brushes (2016)

#175

It's infuriating that articles about a problem like this don't spend just one single sentence on possible alternatives, even though the surgeons are begging. Fire the editor. Alternatives I've seen in this thread are a ball of wadded up aluminum foil, a wooden scraper, abrasive pads, and stiff plastic bristles (EDIT: and an onion). This proves once again that the HN comments section is often better than the article i…

I let my grill heat up and then use an onion to clean it off. works wonders and adds a bit of flavor, too.

Re: Surgeons urge people to throw out bristle BBQ brushes (2016)

#176

I switched to using a wooden scraper a couple years ago, when I first read this report. Works great! https://www.amazon.com/Great-Scrape-Woody-Paddle-Natural/dp/...

You can also get a 1x6 piece of oak (or other hardwood) from your favorite lumber yard or home improvement center. I grabbed an offcut of red oak for about $2 a year ago. Thirty seconds with a jigsaw to form a handle.

Re: Surgeons urge people to throw out bristle BBQ brushes (2016)

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It's infuriating that articles about a problem like this don't spend just one single sentence on possible alternatives, even though the surgeons are begging. Fire the editor. Alternatives I've seen in this thread are a ball of wadded up aluminum foil, a wooden scraper, abrasive pads, and stiff plastic bristles (EDIT: and an onion). This proves once again that the HN comments section is often better than the article i…

A wooden plank works great for me. I was using an onion as well once in a while. Or try both.

Try searching "wooden grill scrapers" on Amazon for example. Or if you don't like Amazon there are some other sites that sell those. I got mine from Canada, made from cedar and in addition to scraping the grill adds a tiny bit of cedar aroma.

Re: Surgeons urge people to throw out bristle BBQ brushes (2016)

#179

How is it that the manufacturers haven't had a class action put their way? I mean, they are knowingly making a product that fails in regular usage in a way that is almost impossible to prevent or detect completely. I'd suggest these types of scrapers be legislated against since they are incapable of being used safely in reasonable intended usage.

The stainless counters, sinks, appliances, etc. in a typical restaurant kitchen spent plenty of time being wire brushes when they were fabricated and approximately none of the bristles shed during that process ever made it into anyone's food because those surfaces were cleaned of debris before being used. Wire brushes and stainless steel scrub pads are incredibly common in food-service. Steel scrapers are commonly used on aluminum sheet pans all the time. Green srub pads shed fibers. The "dirty" side of a kitchen is chock full of debris you don't want to eat You don't wind up with this debris in food because the things being cleaned are cleaned properly.

Scrubbing just breaks off stuff that's caked on. It doesn't remove them except for the few removed by gravity. Dirt, metal and burnt food particles all need to be removed from the thing they're on. This is done by washing and rinsing. The water doesn't know or care whether it's washing away burnt food or wire bristles that were left there while breaking loose the burnt food. If things are being done properly it all goes down the drain. Simply brushing your grill and nothing else is not an adequate cleaning job. You wouldn't just scrape off a pan and then use it without washing and rinsing it.

The stuff in a commercial kitchen is (for the most part) designed to be quick and easy to clean properly. Most appliances and surfaces are wash down capable. Anything that's loose can be gotten off of them with a properly directed stream of water. Corners and crevices that are hard to clean are kept to a minimum. Designing things so that an overworked food-service worker can still clean them well enough helps a lot.

This isn't a wire brush problem. This is a people too lazy to clean things problem that's aggravated by the fact that the contents of the average consumer kitchen were not designed to quickly and easily cleanable and the average consumer will not be fired if they habitually fail to clean things properly.

I do not understand why some people think adding legislation to that will solve the problem of people who do not clean things properly.

This subject is a big deal is because many people clean their grill by brushing and brushing only, steel wire is not something you expect in your food.

Regarding the article itself, on one hand I expect medical professionals (who also work in an environment where being able to clean things is important) have a more nuanced opinion than "just don't use wire brushes" On the other hand, the kind of cleaning that goes on in a medical environment is different and all the stereotype of surgeons expecting the world to revolve around them.

Edit: meant to reply to parent.

Re: Surgeons urge people to throw out bristle BBQ brushes (2016)

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It's infuriating that articles about a problem like this don't spend just one single sentence on possible alternatives, even though the surgeons are begging. Fire the editor. Alternatives I've seen in this thread are a ball of wadded up aluminum foil, a wooden scraper, abrasive pads, and stiff plastic bristles (EDIT: and an onion). This proves once again that the HN comments section is often better than the article i…

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