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China Is Building a Rain-Making System Three Times as Big as Spain

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Re: China Is Building a Rain-Making System Three Times as Big as Spain

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I think access to water resources has always been part, if not the bulk, of modern China's Tibet play. And now they're starting to tap into those resources. I wonder what the effects will be once they start pumping / rain-making at an even more massive scale.

More on water resources in Tibet: http://www.tibetnature.net/en/introduction-water-resources/

Re: China Is Building a Rain-Making System Three Times as Big as Spain

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the recent 200GW solar power deal between Saudi Arabia and SoftBank has more potential to solve desalination problems than Fusion (at least over the medium term).

That too, although solar still has relatively high costs per watt. Fusion can make energy nearly free.

The cost per watt of solar comes from the expenses associated with making solar panels, averaged over their lifetime.

The cost per watt of fusion will come from the expenses associated with making fusion plants, averaged over their lifetime; additionally you need something to fuel the fusion reaction.

I doubt that fusion is going to be cheaper than solar anytime soon, given that solar has the advantage of an established manufacturing process, while fusion is still in the research phase.

Re: China Is Building a Rain-Making System Three Times as Big as Spain

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The potential environmental impact of loads of silver iodide on human and other animal life is of concern. But it is China, so they probably don't care about that aspect.

Not only China, but which large country cares about larger environmental impact? Looking at the weapons the big countries are still building (man made floods, tornadoes etc) I don't think it's fair to target China alone.

> which large country cares about larger environmental impact?

Germany and Japan come to mind.

Re: China Is Building a Rain-Making System Three Times as Big as Spain

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Excluding systems which put water into the air, Atmospheric water is a zero sum game AFAIK so if this causes rain to fall where the Chinese want it, somebody else misses out. Freshwater from high mountains in the India/China region is a hot topic. They're running out of glaciers.

The "stolen" rainfall doesn't have to be spatial, necessarily; it could be temporal as well. It might provide a way to control seasonal floods caused by excessive rainfall during a short period.

It's hard to see how moisture can stay in the air for months at a time, but I am not a climate scientist, so who knows.

Re: China Is Building a Rain-Making System Three Times as Big as Spain

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In other news, in San Francisco, the NIMBYs won an agitation to prevent a 4 school building from being constructed. I am kidding..maybe. In all honestly, I think the time for US to create large scale construction projects that serve humanity (at the expense of environment) are over. We are lucky that the interstates got build in 1950s, that the NYC Subway was formed in late 19th century etc. Today, the regulations an…

Not an engineer but, if your infrastructure is that old first of all I'd focus on maintenance, rather than having dick measuring contests with countries that have questionable attitudes towards pollution, safety and nature.

Re: China Is Building a Rain-Making System Three Times as Big as Spain

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post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not only China, but which large country cares about larger environmental impact? Looking at the weapons the big countries are still building (man made floods, tornadoes etc) I don't think it's fair to target China alone.

> which large country cares about larger environmental impact? Germany and Japan come to mind.

Such irony. The losers of WWII now care about the fate of the planet more than the "winners". I say "winners" because no one really wins a war. We all lose.

Re: China Is Building a Rain-Making System Three Times as Big as Spain

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the recent 200GW solar power deal between Saudi Arabia and SoftBank has more potential to solve desalination problems than Fusion (at least over the medium term).

That too, although solar still has relatively high costs per watt. Fusion can make energy nearly free.

Solar actually exists, fusion doesn't in a realistic comparison

Re: China Is Building a Rain-Making System Three Times as Big as Spain

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post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not only China, but which large country cares about larger environmental impact? Looking at the weapons the big countries are still building (man made floods, tornadoes etc) I don't think it's fair to target China alone.

> which large country cares about larger environmental impact? Germany and Japan come to mind.

Merkel said a lot of things, and yet they already dropped their climate goals for 2020 and they can't seem to get rid of their coal dependency. Words mean nothing without the action to back them up.

Re: China Is Building a Rain-Making System Three Times as Big as Spain

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post #46
post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> which large country cares about larger environmental impact? Germany and Japan come to mind.

Such irony. The losers of WWII now care about the fate of the planet more than the "winners". I say "winners" because no one really wins a war. We all lose.

I wonder if that's due in part due to them being restricted in how big they could grow their militaries, so spent this money on other things.
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