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Tech Bootcamps in Palestine

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Re: Tech Bootcamps in Palestine

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Honest question : there are a few engineers in SV that are jews. Are they allowed to come in ? (and is it safe for them to do so ?)

Yeah its perfectly acceptable and safe to do so, as you can read in the FAQ. Palestinians (I am one) have nothing against Jews

"Avoid wearing outward signs of support for Israel (and, if possible, symbols of Judaism) inside Palestinian areas as you may be mistaken for a Settler intending harm"

So you are saying it's not safe for a Jew to come. As wearing a kippah can lead to altercations.

Re: Tech Bootcamps in Palestine

#32
post #22

Honest question : there are a few engineers in SV that are jews. Are they allowed to come in ? (and is it safe for them to do so ?)

Yeah its perfectly acceptable and safe to do so, as you can read in the FAQ. Palestinians (I am one) have nothing against Jews

That's cute, considering that the first thing you did when we left Gaza was elect Hamas as your government (and even if you claim their subsequent strength is through force- ranks are filled from local militia and the common people.)

Here's a quote from the official charter[1]:

"The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews." (related by al-Bukhari and Moslem)"

Honestly, it's not even worth debating. The "palestinian" hatred of Jews and Israel has been proven time and time again through war when you can afford it and terrorist attacks when you can't.

You even have _children's programs_ pushing the hatred in the most disgusting way possible[2].

That's not even getting into politics (Arafat was born in Egypt) nor religion (so we have no right to practice Torah - which has specific laws about governing Israel).

I'm not pissed because you hate us. I'm pissed because places like California are so obsessed with equality and liberalism that they swallow BS like "Palestinians have nothing against Jews", simply because it fits into their worldview- despite it having no basis in reality (sadly enough).

Shame on you HackerNews. You're smarter than this.

[1] http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ORAM-usqhQ

Re: Tech Bootcamps in Palestine

#33
post #22

Honest question : there are a few engineers in SV that are jews. Are they allowed to come in ? (and is it safe for them to do so ?)

As long as you can hide it. If you're openly Jewish, nobody will vouch for your physical safety though.

Re: Tech Bootcamps in Palestine

#35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah its perfectly acceptable and safe to do so, as you can read in the FAQ. Palestinians (I am one) have nothing against Jews

"Avoid wearing outward signs of support for Israel (and, if possible, symbols of Judaism) inside Palestinian areas as you may be mistaken for a Settler intending harm" So you are saying it's not safe for a Jew to come. As wearing a kippah can lead to altercations.

Well they also say

“Avoid wearing outward signs of support for Palestinians (kaffiyah, slogan t-shirts, etc.) and/or Islam in Settler-controlled areas in the West Bank”

Takes 2 to tango right?

Re: Tech Bootcamps in Palestine

#38
post #34

If I apply, do I need go through israeli cutoms/police/checkpoints? I might have problems or be expelled

Yes you have to... but if there is no real reason for you to be expelled and you don't declare your participation they won't have a problem with it.

Re: Tech Bootcamps in Palestine

#40
post #34

If I apply, do I need go through israeli cutoms/police/checkpoints? I might have problems or be expelled

I travelled to Hebron and Bethlehem last month.

Crossing the checkpoint was very easy. I just took an Israeli Egged bus to the settlement, visited the Cave of the Patriarchs, and walked to the checkpoint.

The Israeli guard didn't mind, just glanced at my passport and visa slip. A Palestinian hostel owner who happened to be on the street asked where I was staying. I told him I was going to stay with my friend Mo, who is a CouchSurfing host with hundreds of references, extremely hospitable, and truly legendary. You must visit him. That hostel owner said he knows Mo, and told me it's the right way!

I wasn't sure about how to take a bus and didn't want to pay for a taxi, so I walked for 45 minutes to Mo's place next to the university. During that time, people struck up conversations 3 times. That's more outgoing than the previous 3 days in Israel! People were happy to see a tourist there.

Water shortage is an issue. I was told that the Palestinian authorities can't improve the water supply because it's controlled by Israel. Palestinians pay double taxes, to both governments. Israeli shekels are used. It's peaceful, although the streets look like images from the news of bombed-out areas in Syria after 10 years of peace to rebuild and start businesses. What is more comfortable to you, riches with inequality or people living in equal poverty?

Israel, on the other hand, is rich and clean, with a good bus network (except on Fridays). People are more wary of strangers, though. I hadn't made an opinion of the political situation until my visit.

Re-entering Israel was easy, on a bus from Bethlehem to Jerusalem. Some military came on board and looked at the passports and visa slips, but didn't cross-check anything online.

On the way out at Ben Gurion airport, they didn't ask where I'd travelled on that trip. Instead, they noticed I'd been to Malaysia several years ago, and asked me many questions about that (Malaysia is a Muslim country). I had no problems with the Taiwan passport sticker [1]. They gave me another passport sticker [2] with a barcode beginning with "5", meaning I'm low-risk. They didn't check electronics. Most likely, you won't have a problem. If you're from a "Muslim country" then perhaps you can visit through the border with Jordan instead, just to avoid Israel. But Israel's quite nice to visit too (the sunset over the ocean from Haifa is beautiful).

[1] https://www.facebook.com/TaiwanPassportSticker/photos/a.1466...

[2] https://bemusedbackpacker.com/2017/01/16/what-to-expect-at-i...

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