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Re: Qubes OS 4.0 has been released

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Post by drefanzor »

codetrotter wrote: post #9

I've been interested in Qubes OS for a long while, ever since I first heard about it years ago. A little while ago I upgraded my desktop and I now have an 8-core Ryzen 7 1700 (that's 16 threads!) and 32 GB of RAM. I installed Kubuntu on it after the first few results on Google suggested Ubuntu would let me install and use the proprietary drivers for the graphics card that I bought; a GeForce 1060 GTX with 6GB VRAM. U…

I'm not sure I understand all the way. Qubes is more for people looking to have their internet connection completely private, and almost everything in the way it's run (preferably from a VM, I guess) is for that reason. Steam is best kept on Windows because it would be pretty obvious since *you're connecting to your Steam account and you would lose the privacy from it. Linux is also not the best environment for your video card, either, because nVidia doesn't have open-source drivers available. Now, yes, there are drivers available for some version of Linux, but they are generally close-source and very likely not the best for privacy reasons.

Re: Qubes OS 4.0 has been released

#12

Post by vermilingua »

codetrotter wrote: post #9

I've been interested in Qubes OS for a long while, ever since I first heard about it years ago. A little while ago I upgraded my desktop and I now have an 8-core Ryzen 7 1700 (that's 16 threads!) and 32 GB of RAM. I installed Kubuntu on it after the first few results on Google suggested Ubuntu would let me install and use the proprietary drivers for the graphics card that I bought; a GeForce 1060 GTX with 6GB VRAM. U…

You cannot. If you have VT-X and VT-d, you might be able to create a Windows HVM and pass through your GPU, but Qubes official support for this is close to nil, and success is very dependant on your specific setup. Some cards plainly won't work, some won't work with given CPU/Mobo combos, etc.

I made my GTX980 work on Arch, and tried on Qubes, but Qubes itself was too unstable for my daily driver, so I never got it complete.

Re: Qubes OS 4.0 has been released

#13

Post by tuxxy »

Does anyone know any good guides for installing this on a X1 Carbon Gen 5?

I've been wanting to try this out on my X1, but there isn't really any nuance when it comes to guides for it. Just a list of problems and what does and doesn't work.

Re: Qubes OS 4.0 has been released

#14

Post by codetrotter »

drefanzor wrote: post #11
codetrotter wrote: post #9

I've been interested in Qubes OS for a long while, ever since I first heard about it years ago. A little while ago I upgraded my desktop and I now have an 8-core Ryzen 7 1700 (that's 16 threads!) and 32 GB of RAM. I installed Kubuntu on it after the first few results on Google suggested Ubuntu would let me install and use the proprietary drivers for the graphics card that I bought; a GeForce 1060 GTX with 6GB VRAM. U…

I'm not sure I understand all the way. Qubes is more for people looking to have their internet connection completely private, and almost everything in the way it's run (preferably from a VM, I guess) is for that reason. Steam is best kept on Windows because it would be pretty obvious since *you're connecting to your Steam account and you would lose the privacy from it. Linux is also not the best environment for your…

> Qubes is more for people looking to have their internet connection completely private

It was my impression that part of the point was also to isolate programs from one-another in case one of them is compromised. I may be mistaken in my understanding, but if Qubes OS did that then that is a good reason for me if I could for example isolate Steam and all of the proprietary games from the rest of my computer. Likewise with the isolating the environments that I visit different sites from.

> Steam is best kept on Windows because it would be pretty obvious since *you're connecting to your Steam account and you would lose the privacy from it.

I don't run Windows.

> Linux is also not the best environment for your video card, either, because nVidia doesn't have open-source drivers available. Now, yes, there are drivers available for some version of Linux, but they are generally close-source and very likely not the best for privacy reasons.

Proprietary drivers on Linux are still better than proprietary drivers on an OS that is also proprietary. Besides I plain don't like the Windows experience. I use Windows on my work computer because I have to but I will not use in on my private computers (aside from occasionally in a VM for some purpose or other).

Anyway, a sibling to your comment told me that Qubes OS does not have official GPU support so I guess it's not for me sadly.

Re: Qubes OS 4.0 has been released

#15

Post by codetrotter »

vermilingua wrote: post #12
codetrotter wrote: post #9

I've been interested in Qubes OS for a long while, ever since I first heard about it years ago. A little while ago I upgraded my desktop and I now have an 8-core Ryzen 7 1700 (that's 16 threads!) and 32 GB of RAM. I installed Kubuntu on it after the first few results on Google suggested Ubuntu would let me install and use the proprietary drivers for the graphics card that I bought; a GeForce 1060 GTX with 6GB VRAM. U…

You cannot. If you have VT-X and VT-d, you might be able to create a Windows HVM and pass through your GPU, but Qubes official support for this is close to nil, and success is very dependant on your specific setup. Some cards plainly won't work, some won't work with given CPU/Mobo combos, etc. I made my GTX980 work on Arch, and tried on Qubes, but Qubes itself was too unstable for my daily driver, so I never got it c…

That's too bad. Oh well.

Re: Qubes OS 4.0 has been released

#17

Post by saganus »

How is the GPU pass-through support in this release?

I'd love to use Qubes but I sometimes want to use my GPU for games or other OpenGL stuff.

Is this already working good or is it still a bit bumpy?

Re: Qubes OS 4.0 has been released

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Post by GuyPostington »

tuxxy wrote: post #13

Does anyone know any good guides for installing this on a X1 Carbon Gen 5? I've been wanting to try this out on my X1, but there isn't really any nuance when it comes to guides for it. Just a list of problems and what does and doesn't work.

I've been running qubes 4 on an X1 Gen 5 carbon. I can put together a guide tomorrow. Message me again just in case I forget and do it again on Monday just in case again.

Re: Qubes OS 4.0 has been released

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Post by gigama »

Would be happy to use Qubes if I could also get a certified laptop to run it on. Even after months their hardware requirements page still says "Unfortunately, there are currently no certified laptops for Qubes R3.x or R4.x. This page will be updated once certified laptops are available."

Anyone have any insider ETA or recommendations? Prefer a practical/reliable laptop over some expensive racehorse.

What laptop does Snowden use?

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