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Facebook pauses app reviews, disables new user authorizations

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Re: Facebook pauses app reviews, disables new user authorizations

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Post by tzahola »

negamax wrote: post #18
Mc_Big_G wrote: post #7

Reading Facebook's PR as they try to fix "problems" that they previously leveraged to profit massively is like someone purposely tripping you and as you stand back up they spit in your face and say "Oh, sorry. I'll try not to do it again" in a condescending tone. [edited to remove things HN can't handle]

Wow man that's some top level hate. You do realize that Zuck has pledged away 99% of his wealth? Providing third party apps access to friends list was a strange permission. I have never used an app that asked for it. But there are plenty of dating, games and social apps that could only work with a permission like that. I think people are reading too much into this fiasco. We are better off fixing Facebook. It serves…

“pledged”

Actually, he put his wealth in a tax-exempt “””charity”””.

Re: Facebook pauses app reviews, disables new user authorizations

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Post by miracle2k »

aylmao wrote: post #23
drnex wrote: post #8

facebook privacy through restricting the api is an illusion, a lot of content can be extracted with scrappers

You have to be someone's friend to extract that same info with scraper though, no?

If a user account authorizes to for the API, you could only see the data of that account's friends, too.

Re: Facebook pauses app reviews, disables new user authorizations

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Post by niij »

ucaetano wrote: post #25
negamax wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow man that's some top level hate. You do realize that Zuck has pledged away 99% of his wealth? Providing third party apps access to friends list was a strange permission. I have never used an app that asked for it. But there are plenty of dating, games and social apps that could only work with a permission like that. I think people are reading too much into this fiasco. We are better off fixing Facebook. It serves…

> You do realize that Zuck has pledged away 99% of his wealth? He hasn't. He has pledged to donate 99% of his wealth to a private, for-profit organization that he owns. I also pledge to donate 99% of my wealth to my bank account.

>He hasn't. He has pledged to donate 99% of his wealth to a private, for-profit organization that he owns.

I initially thought you were being overly critical here. It looks like you're right, the "Initiative" he created is an LLC and not a non-profit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chan_Zuckerberg_Initiative#Com...

Re: Facebook pauses app reviews, disables new user authorizations

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Post by Method-X »

ucaetano wrote: post #25
negamax wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow man that's some top level hate. You do realize that Zuck has pledged away 99% of his wealth? Providing third party apps access to friends list was a strange permission. I have never used an app that asked for it. But there are plenty of dating, games and social apps that could only work with a permission like that. I think people are reading too much into this fiasco. We are better off fixing Facebook. It serves…

> You do realize that Zuck has pledged away 99% of his wealth? He hasn't. He has pledged to donate 99% of his wealth to a private, for-profit organization that he owns. I also pledge to donate 99% of my wealth to my bank account.

Interesting tax avoidance strategy. Any idea if this is also what Bill Gates is doing?

Re: Facebook pauses app reviews, disables new user authorizations

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Post by ucaetano »

Method-X wrote: post #34
ucaetano wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You do realize that Zuck has pledged away 99% of his wealth? He hasn't. He has pledged to donate 99% of his wealth to a private, for-profit organization that he owns. I also pledge to donate 99% of my wealth to my bank account.

Interesting tax avoidance strategy. Any idea if this is also what Bill Gates is doing?

His and his wife's is a proper foundation:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_%26_Melinda_Gates_Foundat...

The money is out of their hands, and can't be distributed back to them.

Re: Facebook pauses app reviews, disables new user authorizations

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Post by komali2 »

chupakabra1 wrote: post #21
negamax wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow man that's some top level hate. You do realize that Zuck has pledged away 99% of his wealth? Providing third party apps access to friends list was a strange permission. I have never used an app that asked for it. But there are plenty of dating, games and social apps that could only work with a permission like that. I think people are reading too much into this fiasco. We are better off fixing Facebook. It serves…

yeah yeah anyone can pledge ... like elon musk pledged a billion for openai and tesla has money issues ... it has been a fashion to pledge these days.

Why the cynicism?

Should giving money away be unfashionable?

Re: Facebook pauses app reviews, disables new user authorizations

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Post by 0x0 »

Zarath wrote: post #10

How does one even pause app reviews? They don't own the app stores do they?

Their "app store" is all the facebook app IDs that developers register to enable "login with facebook" and so on, in their own apps. Without an fb app, you cannot access the facebook api or sdk. For example, pokemon go might offer "login with facebook" and that makes your in-game account gated by a working facebook app integration.

Re: Facebook pauses app reviews, disables new user authorizations

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Post by ericflo »

miracle2k wrote: post #30

The so-called "data breach" was always in reality a by-product of an open platform that hundreds of thousands of developers could easily build apps on top. You may err on the side of "more reviews" or "less powerful API", but in the end, those ideals are in tension. The more open the platform, the more open to this kind of "breach". People who believe in the idea in this kind of platform having an API should have lon…

This is buying into the idea that security and openness are at odds. Bitcoin is extremely secure, and also open to all. The way forward is people owning all their data encrypted, and revealing zero knowledge proofs about that data to services that want access.

Re: Facebook pauses app reviews, disables new user authorizations

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Post by thinkloop »

I wonder if it's all still a net benefit for fb. I remember back in the day while doing heavy fb dev, being flabbergasted at what we were able to get. It solidified our decision to invest heavily in their platform. We were able to get millions of likes and other data by simply having a few thousand signups. At one point I thought it was a bug and had to ask around about it. We had to consider whether it is something that will be "discovered" and shutdown or not. The power of it cannot be understated, and without a doubt a major catalyst for the success of their platform. It's possible that they would be worth less today, including the $100B loss, without it.

Re: Facebook pauses app reviews, disables new user authorizations

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Post by cfors »

Method-X wrote: post #34
ucaetano wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You do realize that Zuck has pledged away 99% of his wealth? He hasn't. He has pledged to donate 99% of his wealth to a private, for-profit organization that he owns. I also pledge to donate 99% of my wealth to my bank account.

Interesting tax avoidance strategy. Any idea if this is also what Bill Gates is doing?

Not exactly, I'm pretty sure Bill Gates is a nonprofit. However, there's a book called "No Such Thing as a Free Gift" about the social costs of letting our .00001% be the welfare providers for society. Pretty good if you're interested.
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