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Re: Facebook pauses app reviews, disables new user authorizations

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Post by chupakabra1 » Wed, Mar 28, 2018, 10:12 PM UTC

negamax wrote: post #18

Mc_Big_G wrote: post #7

Reading Facebook's PR as they try to fix "problems" that they previously leveraged to profit massively is like someone purposely tripping you and as you stand back up they spit in your face and say "Oh, sorry. I'll try not to do it again" in a condescending tone. [edited to remove things HN can't handle]

Wow man that's some top level hate. You do realize that Zuck has pledged away 99% of his wealth? Providing third party apps access to friends list was a strange permission. I have never used an app that asked for it. But there are plenty of dating, games and social apps that could only work with a permission like that. I think people are reading too much into this fiasco. We are better off fixing Facebook. It serves…

yeah yeah anyone can pledge ... like elon musk pledged a billion for openai and tesla has money issues ... it has been a fashion to pledge these days.

Re: Facebook pauses app reviews, disables new user authorizations

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Post by czardoz » Wed, Mar 28, 2018, 10:12 PM UTC

Mc_Big_G wrote: post #7

Reading Facebook's PR as they try to fix "problems" that they previously leveraged to profit massively is like someone purposely tripping you and as you stand back up they spit in your face and say "Oh, sorry. I'll try not to do it again" in a condescending tone. [edited to remove things HN can't handle]

HN has no obligation to "handle" your vitriol.

Re: Facebook pauses app reviews, disables new user authorizations

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Post by aylmao » Wed, Mar 28, 2018, 10:12 PM UTC

drnex wrote: post #8

facebook privacy through restricting the api is an illusion, a lot of content can be extracted with scrappers

You have to be someone's friend to extract that same info with scraper though, no?

Re: Facebook pauses app reviews, disables new user authorizations

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Post by shafyy » Wed, Mar 28, 2018, 10:13 PM UTC

Zarath wrote: post #10

How does one even pause app reviews? They don't own the app stores do they?

They are talking about apps on Facebook. E.g. if you want to build a chatbot on Messenger, you have to create an app on Facebook.

Re: Facebook pauses app reviews, disables new user authorizations

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Post by ucaetano » Wed, Mar 28, 2018, 10:13 PM UTC

negamax wrote: post #18

Mc_Big_G wrote: post #7

Reading Facebook's PR as they try to fix "problems" that they previously leveraged to profit massively is like someone purposely tripping you and as you stand back up they spit in your face and say "Oh, sorry. I'll try not to do it again" in a condescending tone. [edited to remove things HN can't handle]

Wow man that's some top level hate. You do realize that Zuck has pledged away 99% of his wealth? Providing third party apps access to friends list was a strange permission. I have never used an app that asked for it. But there are plenty of dating, games and social apps that could only work with a permission like that. I think people are reading too much into this fiasco. We are better off fixing Facebook. It serves…

> You do realize that Zuck has pledged away 99% of his wealth?

He hasn't. He has pledged to donate 99% of his wealth to a private, for-profit organization that he owns.

I also pledge to donate 99% of my wealth to my bank account.

Re: Facebook pauses app reviews, disables new user authorizations

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Post by fishtank » Wed, Mar 28, 2018, 10:14 PM UTC

jazoom wrote: post #17

Mc_Big_G wrote: post #7

Reading Facebook's PR as they try to fix "problems" that they previously leveraged to profit massively is like someone purposely tripping you and as you stand back up they spit in your face and say "Oh, sorry. I'll try not to do it again" in a condescending tone. [edited to remove things HN can't handle]

Didn't he plan to give away almost all his money over time?

He plans to "give away" money to an LLC he controls, which makes donations and invests in companies with some kind of social mission.

Not saying an LLC that makes investments in for-profit tutoring companies is bad, really, just not a charity in the usual sense, and not a gift to the public good.

Re: Facebook pauses app reviews, disables new user authorizations

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Post by aylmao » Wed, Mar 28, 2018, 10:14 PM UTC

dworts wrote: post #9

Seems kind of late for this kind of thing doesn't it?

As in, a week late? No. Changes like this take time; some of these Facebook devs and managers are probably already working around the clock on this and related changes.

Or as in many years late? In that case yes. A bit more privacy from the start would've been nice.

Re: Facebook pauses app reviews, disables new user authorizations

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Post by pinewurst » Wed, Mar 28, 2018, 10:15 PM UTC

negamax wrote: post #18

Mc_Big_G wrote: post #7

Reading Facebook's PR as they try to fix "problems" that they previously leveraged to profit massively is like someone purposely tripping you and as you stand back up they spit in your face and say "Oh, sorry. I'll try not to do it again" in a condescending tone. [edited to remove things HN can't handle]

Wow man that's some top level hate. You do realize that Zuck has pledged away 99% of his wealth? Providing third party apps access to friends list was a strange permission. I have never used an app that asked for it. But there are plenty of dating, games and social apps that could only work with a permission like that. I think people are reading too much into this fiasco. We are better off fixing Facebook. It serves…

There's an enormous difference between Zuck's "charitable" corporation (not a foundation) and the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation.

There's no visible effort at giving beyond the US Zuck Feelings Tour and hiring professional political hacks as his CZI staff.

Re: Facebook pauses app reviews, disables new user authorizations

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Post by omegaworks » Wed, Mar 28, 2018, 10:15 PM UTC

negamax wrote: post #18

Mc_Big_G wrote: post #7

Reading Facebook's PR as they try to fix "problems" that they previously leveraged to profit massively is like someone purposely tripping you and as you stand back up they spit in your face and say "Oh, sorry. I'll try not to do it again" in a condescending tone. [edited to remove things HN can't handle]

Wow man that's some top level hate. You do realize that Zuck has pledged away 99% of his wealth? Providing third party apps access to friends list was a strange permission. I have never used an app that asked for it. But there are plenty of dating, games and social apps that could only work with a permission like that. I think people are reading too much into this fiasco. We are better off fixing Facebook. It serves…

>You do realize that Zuck has pledged away 99% of his wealth?

Please stop spreading PR. He put the money into a limited-liability corporation, and spread a bunch of articles about a "pledge." It's nothing more then a tax-sheltered investment vehicle.[1] This is not the same as putting it into a charitable trust. He can use the money to influence whoever he decides to give it to.

1. http://fortune.com/2015/12/02/zuckerberg-charity/

"Corporations can make for-profit investments and political donations—and unlike charitable trusts, they don’t have to report their political donations."

Re: Facebook pauses app reviews, disables new user authorizations

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Post by miracle2k » Wed, Mar 28, 2018, 10:15 PM UTC

The so-called "data breach" was always in reality a by-product of an open platform that hundreds of thousands of developers could easily build apps on top. You may err on the side of "more reviews" or "less powerful API", but in the end, those ideals are in tension. The more open the platform, the more open to this kind of "breach".

People who believe in the idea in this kind of platform having an API should have long ago spoken up in Facebooks defense. This is exactly what I was afraid would happen, and I expect worse to come from this "platform review". Given the kind of media coverage here, Facebook seems to have more to lose than to gain from letting random Hacker News kids build on their platform. And if so, they won't in the future.