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Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It (2016)

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Post by magic_beans » Wed, Mar 28, 2018, 8:28 PM UTC

jacobkg wrote: post #69

RandallBrown wrote: post #62

Am I the only person that has a healthy relationship with social media? I use Twitter to follow interesting celebrities and industry professionals. (Adam Savage Mythbusters fame, pro climber Alex Honnold, several notable iOS programmers). I rarely interact with any of them, but I find out about lots of interesting things. I use Facebook to keep in touch with friends around the country. I can keep my dad updated to wh…

For most people there exists a news headline that will ruin their day or at least disrupt their morning e.g "Young child decapitated at amusement park" or "North Korea moves one step closer to nuking Western US" or "Bacon Gives You Cancer". Facebook heavily encourages people to write and share headlines like this (true or not) and then promotes them prominently in your news feed. This can take a heavy emotional toll…

I immediately unfollow or unfriend people who post things like this. I also use the News Feed Eradicator extension. The result is that my mobile feed is full of happy baby photos, and my desktop feed is completely blank.

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It (2016)

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Post by kragen » Wed, Mar 28, 2018, 8:36 PM UTC

whatyoucantsay wrote: post #210

kolpa wrote: post #175

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1.5% chance of a 5-20years cancer-induced loss is an expected gain of at most 4months of life, in exchange for giving up not just bacon but all "processed meat" for an entire lifetime , while also taking care not to replace that meat with any other carcinogens such as sugar. It's not a "single disrupted morning"

> carcinogens such as sugar. Has any major medical body ever classified sugar as a carcinogen, or is this bro-science?

Yes. The World Cancer Research Fund commissioned a comprehensive review of cancer risk factors, signed off on by dozens of prominent scientists. They came up with ten key recommendations. One of them is, "Limit red meat and avoid processed meat." Another is, "Avoid high-calorie foods and sugary drinks." A third is, "Keep [body] weight low within the healthy range." Sugary drinks and obesity as risks for cancer are definitely well within mainstream science.

https://www.wcrf.org/int/research-we-fund/our-cancer-prevent... (currently "down for maintenance", but available in gcache)

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It (2016)

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Post by mehrdadn » Wed, Mar 28, 2018, 8:49 PM UTC

kragen wrote: post #222

whatyoucantsay wrote: post #210

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> carcinogens such as sugar. Has any major medical body ever classified sugar as a carcinogen, or is this bro-science?

Yes. The World Cancer Research Fund commissioned a comprehensive review of cancer risk factors, signed off on by dozens of prominent scientists. They came up with ten key recommendations. One of them is, "Limit red meat and avoid processed meat." Another is, "Avoid high-calorie foods and sugary drinks." A third is, "Keep [body] weight low within the healthy range." Sugary drinks and obesity as risks for cancer are de…

Doesn't "carcinogen" mean something a little stronger than "may increase risk of cancer"? Like I wouldn't call walking on the street a deadly activity just because it may increase your chance of death.

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It (2016)

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Post by mixmastamyk » Wed, Mar 28, 2018, 8:56 PM UTC

evfanknitram wrote: post #105

jacobkg wrote: post #69

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For most people there exists a news headline that will ruin their day or at least disrupt their morning e.g "Young child decapitated at amusement park" or "North Korea moves one step closer to nuking Western US" or "Bacon Gives You Cancer". Facebook heavily encourages people to write and share headlines like this (true or not) and then promotes them prominently in your news feed. This can take a heavy emotional toll…

Is there some study showing that your first sentence is correct? The reason I ask is that I never ever see stuff like that in my feed. Is it your friends who share that kind of stuff or is it showing up as ads or? And why are those people encouraged to share stuff such as bacon giving cancer? In my feed I only see the stuff from friends, such as travel photos, various fun experiences, poems and sometimes comments on…

Ugly politics was the majority of my feed until a few years ago when I made the effort to unfollow chronic posters of all persuasions.

Not to mention the flood of pro/anti gun posts after each massacre.

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It (2016)

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Post by mixmastamyk » Wed, Mar 28, 2018, 8:59 PM UTC

delerio wrote: post #116

jacobkg wrote: post #69

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For most people there exists a news headline that will ruin their day or at least disrupt their morning e.g "Young child decapitated at amusement park" or "North Korea moves one step closer to nuking Western US" or "Bacon Gives You Cancer". Facebook heavily encourages people to write and share headlines like this (true or not) and then promotes them prominently in your news feed. This can take a heavy emotional toll…

I've never seen stuff like that, but then again I heavily control my fb feed by only following "close" friends and select family members. I don't follow any news sites, and pretty much only follow art pages/ and a few programmers that have public profiles. This has more to do with people who have family/friends who enjoy stuff like that, but it's easily possible to never run across articles like that on fb. I sure ha…

Not everyone is lucky enough to have thoughtful relatives, yet not horrible enough to completely shun.

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It (2016)

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Post by mixmastamyk » Wed, Mar 28, 2018, 9:02 PM UTC

mehrdadn wrote: post #223

kragen wrote: post #222

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Yes. The World Cancer Research Fund commissioned a comprehensive review of cancer risk factors, signed off on by dozens of prominent scientists. They came up with ten key recommendations. One of them is, "Limit red meat and avoid processed meat." Another is, "Avoid high-calorie foods and sugary drinks." A third is, "Keep [body] weight low within the healthy range." Sugary drinks and obesity as risks for cancer are de…

Doesn't "carcinogen" mean something a little stronger than "may increase risk of cancer"? Like I wouldn't call walking on the street a deadly activity just because it may increase your chance of death.

Believe it feeds cancer growth, not that it is a cause in itself.

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It (2016)

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Post by encinotech » Wed, Mar 28, 2018, 9:06 PM UTC

dionidium wrote: post #142

borplk wrote: post #41

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> an employer that even looks at your social media profile to do a sort of casual "character check" on you, is not one that you should want to work for in the first place. Companies aren't going to ignore "free information available at your fingertips" about the candidates they hire. For example a problem candidate may have easily accessible "red flags" on their social media such as racist stuff and drug use. They co…

"Companies aren't going to ignore "free information available at your fingertips" about the candidates they hire." I do. I often interview candidates in my role as a software developer at my company. Finding them on social media would be trivial. But I don't look for them there. I don't care. I don't even want to know their politics before giving my recommendation and I'm deeply suspicious of anybody who thinks they…

I think a more relevant example would be a candidate who regularly is involved in trollish / racist / hateful behavior on their social media profiles.

If this was the case would you still not want to know?

I'm genuinely curious as my belief now is that you'd absolutely benefit from knowing and filtering out that candidate.

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It (2016)

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Post by scarecrowbob » Wed, Mar 28, 2018, 9:06 PM UTC

drewmol wrote: post #169

scarecrowbob wrote: post #124

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Well, I used to think I had a healthy relationship with drinking, but ohhh... Not that social media is the same thing at all. But I have a degree in philosophy and was trained in my formative years to argue with folks. That's a terrible mode to be in on social media-- it doesn't serve the people around me and it doesn't serve me at all. So I stopped arguing and just posted nice things, like songs I sing or good thing…

>But I have a degree in philosophy and was trained in my formative years to argue with folks. Interestingly, the way we often teach debate is: Someone can argue either side of an issue, and be judged on the approach, successful influence or tactics used, with insufficient weight on the merits of the position. I suspect this helps promote the climate that is reflected in your followup statement: >I can't really get ou…

To a great extent, I see people formally arguing well (or, at the very least, trying to signal that they are arguing well) but so many argue for absurd propositions and hellish conclusions.

Much of my thought over the last couple of years centers on how much of our rationalist skills are honed around developing resistance strategies.

I believe that we have far more and better mental tools at our disposal for telling us that we are being rational than we actually have tools for being rational.

Maybe that is, in itself an irrational belief. It's kind of difficult to justify, but it feels correct, so I kneel doan and act as if I believe it, especially with regards to my own thought patterns.

At the very least, however, logic and rationality only operate well if we have a common set of quality premises.

So even with a good education in rhetoric we often can't get out of our heads enough to look for truth instead of seek the gratification of justifying ourselves.

Heck, my MA concentrates on rhetoric and community, and I have a hard time simply being okay when I generally agree with folks who are saying nutty things because of their poor logical skills. And so I can't really be around an environment that foments that kind of casual bad thought.

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It (2016)

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Post by mixmastamyk » Wed, Mar 28, 2018, 9:07 PM UTC

sverige wrote: post #189

jacobkg wrote: post #69

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For most people there exists a news headline that will ruin their day or at least disrupt their morning e.g "Young child decapitated at amusement park" or "North Korea moves one step closer to nuking Western US" or "Bacon Gives You Cancer". Facebook heavily encourages people to write and share headlines like this (true or not) and then promotes them prominently in your news feed. This can take a heavy emotional toll…

While I agree that pretty much all news media is toxic, the reason Facebook makes people unhappy is that 1) people put on their best show there, and 2) others compare themselves and become discontent. It's the constant comparing of your life to the perception that others have it better that causes all this unhappiness. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/get-out-your-mind/20...

Don't agree. The ugly politics makes me much more unhappy than a friends Hawaii trip.

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It (2016)

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Post by mixmastamyk » Wed, Mar 28, 2018, 9:27 PM UTC

_jal wrote: post #126

RandallBrown wrote: post #62

Am I the only person that has a healthy relationship with social media? I use Twitter to follow interesting celebrities and industry professionals. (Adam Savage Mythbusters fame, pro climber Alex Honnold, several notable iOS programmers). I rarely interact with any of them, but I find out about lots of interesting things. I use Facebook to keep in touch with friends around the country. I can keep my dad updated to wh…

> If I wouldn't do something in public, I wouldn't post it to social media. Not everyone has that freedom. Gay people in rural Alabama, women in the UAE, undocumented immigrants in Arizona. People fleeing abusive spouses. > Am I the only person that has a healthy relationship with social media? Doubtful, but you are a person who doesn't face serious consequences for existing.

Or a job where you must present a bland public image.