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Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It (2016)

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Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It (2016)

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post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For myself, social media (Facebook) makes me upset for several reasons. Besides the usual reasons of seeing disturbing news and advertisements, being manipulated by the system, and the creepy feeling of being digitally analyzed for profit, there exists a more serious problem. I have friends from all over the spectrum, from poor to wealthy, simple to intelligent, young to old. However I find something in almost all of…

When I want to reply to posts like that, I ponder until I can think of something to say that is short, simple, and kind. My goal is not to correct them but rather to build a relationship of trust. If they learn to trust me, they are far more likely to join my side on important matters. Also consider that most people don't have your writing skills and will get frustrated when they try to engage in a debate with you in…

Very smart approach. It's human nature to react poorly to being publicly criticized or humiliated (in case of the crystal healing stuff).

Given that, I also strive to direct message the poster and ask the leading questions or point out the problems. They might even take down their post or alter it. You have to be willing not to get any credit and go unseen, which probably feels alien to many social media users.

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It (2016)

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post #132

Am I the only person that has a healthy relationship with social media? I use Twitter to follow interesting celebrities and industry professionals. (Adam Savage Mythbusters fame, pro climber Alex Honnold, several notable iOS programmers). I rarely interact with any of them, but I find out about lots of interesting things. I use Facebook to keep in touch with friends around the country. I can keep my dad updated to wh…

For myself, social media (Facebook) makes me upset for several reasons. Besides the usual reasons of seeing disturbing news and advertisements, being manipulated by the system, and the creepy feeling of being digitally analyzed for profit, there exists a more serious problem. I have friends from all over the spectrum, from poor to wealthy, simple to intelligent, young to old. However I find something in almost all of…

You said it yourself, by ignoring nonsense. I used to engage and I still do chime in once or twice a year. But overall I just ignore those posts and move on with my life. I've learned I can be close to people that have incredibly different life philosophies. It really is your choice and it comes back to the stoic philosophy of changing the things you can change and have a meaningful impact on your life, while ignoring everything else. That probably sounds like blasphemy in today's connected, opinionated, world. But it helps me cope.

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It (2016)

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Am I the only person that has a healthy relationship with social media? I use Twitter to follow interesting celebrities and industry professionals. (Adam Savage Mythbusters fame, pro climber Alex Honnold, several notable iOS programmers). I rarely interact with any of them, but I find out about lots of interesting things. I use Facebook to keep in touch with friends around the country. I can keep my dad updated to wh…

Not at all, I’ve always had a very healthy relationship, insofar as I’ve never made an account on Facebook or a Twitter or anything like it. I’ve always been amazed that supposedly smart people don’t understand the simple truth of the internet: once you upload something, it’s online forever. If you’re not 100% sure that what you’re sharing is something you want associated with you until the day you die, don’t share it.

As I’m not capable of seeing into the future, the only sane choice is not to share in the first place. Close and meaningful relationships with other people were possible before they were cynically monetized by social media, and they’re still possible without it. When it comes to social media, the only winning move is not to play, and/or be anonymous.

The alternative is that some 14 year old can DOXX you, SWAT you, and generally make your life miserable. The alternative is that your boss sees something they don’t like and you lose your job.

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It (2016)

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Am I the only person that has a healthy relationship with social media? I use Twitter to follow interesting celebrities and industry professionals. (Adam Savage Mythbusters fame, pro climber Alex Honnold, several notable iOS programmers). I rarely interact with any of them, but I find out about lots of interesting things. I use Facebook to keep in touch with friends around the country. I can keep my dad updated to wh…

For most people there exists a news headline that will ruin their day or at least disrupt their morning e.g "Young child decapitated at amusement park" or "North Korea moves one step closer to nuking Western US" or "Bacon Gives You Cancer". Facebook heavily encourages people to write and share headlines like this (true or not) and then promotes them prominently in your news feed. This can take a heavy emotional toll…

The bacon thing is maybe a good example of Hamming's Closed Door Paradox:

    I noticed the following facts about people who work
    with the door open or the door closed. I notice that
    if you have the door to your office closed, you get
    more work done today and tomorrow, and you are more
    productive than most. But 10 years later somehow you
    don't know quite know what problems are worth working
    on; all the hard work you do is sort of tangential in
    importance. He who works with the door open gets all
    kinds of interruptions, but he also occasionally gets
    clues as to what the world is and what might be
    important. Now I cannot prove the cause and effect
    sequence because you might say, ``The closed door is
    symbolic of a closed mind.'' I don't know. But I can
    say there is a pretty good correlation between those
    who work with the doors open and those who ultimately
    do important things, although people who work with
    doors closed often work harder. Somehow they seem to
    work on slightly the wrong thing - not much, but
    enough that they miss fame.
http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~robins/YouAndYourResearch.html

In this case, as it turns out, bacon does give you cancer. The relative risk of high "processed meat" consumption is in the neighborhood of 20%, i.e. RR of 1.2, for colorectal and lung cancers. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16991129/

In the US, there are about 200k deaths per year from these two cancers, out of 2.7 million total deaths. So your chances of dying of one of these two cancers is about 7.4%, if you live in a place somewhat like the US. And that increases to about 8.9% if you eat a lot of processed meat.

It seems to me like a 1.5% chance of dodging a death by cancer, and thus living an extra 5–20 years, is worth a single disrupted morning.

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It (2016)

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Am I the only person that has a healthy relationship with social media? I use Twitter to follow interesting celebrities and industry professionals. (Adam Savage Mythbusters fame, pro climber Alex Honnold, several notable iOS programmers). I rarely interact with any of them, but I find out about lots of interesting things. I use Facebook to keep in touch with friends around the country. I can keep my dad updated to wh…

> Am I the only person that has a healthy relationship with social media?

You are confusing a propaganda campaign against social media with actual news. Also keep in mind that the author of the Op-Ed was pushing a book he was writing.

Billions of people have a healthy relationship with social media. Just like billions of people have a healthy relationship with alcohol, food, working out, tv, sports, cars, etc. But it's funny how every day we are bombarded by the news media on social media ( ironically enough ) about how evil facebook and social media is.

OP's post is from November 2016. Why do you think it was posted on HN? Billions of dollars being spent on "cambridge analytics" style firms to put pressure on facebook, google and social media in general. So expect to see a lot of social media bashing as the elites try to reign in social media.

That's all it is. Once zuckerburg bends the knee like most social media entities have, the media and the will back off. Just like they did with reddit and google/youtube.

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It (2016)

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Am I the only person that has a healthy relationship with social media? I use Twitter to follow interesting celebrities and industry professionals. (Adam Savage Mythbusters fame, pro climber Alex Honnold, several notable iOS programmers). I rarely interact with any of them, but I find out about lots of interesting things. I use Facebook to keep in touch with friends around the country. I can keep my dad updated to wh…

> If I wouldn't do something in public, I wouldn't post it to social media. Maybe I'm unique in being able to restrain myself. Another possibility occurs to me: you are on a path in your life where, for whatever reason, you rarely engage politically with the world. Or at least you rarely engage politically in a way that would bring a substantial risk to your career, personal, or political life. Or you are lucky enoug…

> you rarely engage politically with the world

Why do you think arguing on social media is the only or even best way to engage politically with the world?

> So I'm left confused by your apparent inability to do the same.

Inability to do what?

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It (2016)

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Am I the only person that has a healthy relationship with social media? I use Twitter to follow interesting celebrities and industry professionals. (Adam Savage Mythbusters fame, pro climber Alex Honnold, several notable iOS programmers). I rarely interact with any of them, but I find out about lots of interesting things. I use Facebook to keep in touch with friends around the country. I can keep my dad updated to wh…

I use Facebook pretty sparingly with a small group of friends and family so I don't really share too much except for photos.

I don't think I post anything bad, but I'd rather not have an employer start making assumptions about me based on a few small bits posted on the internet. I've always felt that the less personal information my employer/co-workers know the better, but I am also one of those people who have a pretty barren cube.

The thing that makes me unhappy about Facebook is that it almost seems like too much work to make it worthwhile. Adjusting privacy settings, blocking/limiting certain peoples posts, etc. is just something that I don't like to do. I could care less that someone commented on a video or shared some garbage click bait.

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It (2016)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is happening on your Facebook that's making you unhappy? Not me because I haven't been on social media for years but I'm guessing it's comparison. If your friends are posting photos of their holiday in Bali and you only managed a camping trip over the weekend then how is that going to make you feel? Add in the doom and gloom in the news that tells you things have never been so bad and you can see it isn't health…

The problem is that most people in the moment think that they are above this kind of feeling because it's not something you realize. That's why you need long-term studies to determine it. People won't admit to being petty like this, but the sad reality is that most of us are.

Yes, I suspect those that deny it are probably most affected. I'm reminded of my parents who insist reading their newspaper doesn't affect their thinking yet they can't help but regurgitate its headlines every time I visit.
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