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Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It (2016)

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Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It (2016)

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as a millennial its almost impossible to apply for a job that doesnt quietly scan through social media trying to find you. My last job sent a linkedin request from the HR director, but after my first week he lamented that I "didnt seem very social" on the internet. My current job went so far as to browse the TLD for my email address for clues to any seditious or non-conforming behaviors.

> after my first week he lamented that I "didnt seem very social" on the internet.

Ew...

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It (2016)

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post #11

as a millennial its almost impossible to apply for a job that doesnt quietly scan through social media trying to find you. My last job sent a linkedin request from the HR director, but after my first week he lamented that I "didnt seem very social" on the internet. My current job went so far as to browse the TLD for my email address for clues to any seditious or non-conforming behaviors.

What kind of job was this for?

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It (2016)

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People have different opinions. There's no homogenous voice of authority that tells people what to do and what not to do.

These aren't "opinion" articles. Their findings are reasoned and presented like facts. If the NYT wrote "Quit eating chocolate, your health may depend on it", would you perceive it as an opinion, or advice based on facts/research?

As 8ytecoder said, Cal Newport has never been wishy-washy on this topic (please correct me if I'm wrong). He's also been pretty clear in interviews that deep work is incredibly beneficial for some professions and less so for others. I know there are careers out there where having a social media presence is important (PR, marketing, etc) and others where it's not necessary and would be a hindrance to getting deep work done.

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It (2016)

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post #20

Career and social life should be completely and utterly separated. The content on your social media page should have no bearing on your ability to perform the job at hand. Quite honestly, an employer that even looks at your social media profile to do a sort of casual "character check" on you, is not one that you should want to work for in the first place. Especially true in the realm of IT, where there just simply ar…

What should happen and what does happen are two completely separate things in reality.

If performance actually mattered I'd venture to guess 95%+ of people would be fired immediately. Maybe I'm cynical about it in my advancing years, but kissing ass pays off exponentially more than producing good work (unless you own your own business).

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It (2016)

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post #6
post #3

Is HN "social media"?

HN is to facebook as recovered meat is to asbestos. Not good for you, but if you want a hotdog once in a while you're not going to die from it.

Recovered meat and asbestos are probably very similar on the hazardous scale. Only high levels of daily, lifelong consumption/inhaling of them will increase the chance of getting some kind of disease, usually only in combination with some other kind of high risk factor. Lloyad's of London just had a blanket policy covering the US asbestos companies which made/makes asbestos lawsuits a much better bet than processed meat ones.

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It (2016)

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post #9

This is self-promotional, but also highly relevant! A few moths ago after reading Cal Newport's book "Deep Work", I decided to try to improve my social media usage by writing an app that could block HN/Twitter/Google News (the big 3 digital distractions for me) by default, and force me to go to an extra step to temporarily unblock them when I wanted to use them. It seems like a small thing, but that extra friction of…

I had a very similar experience, but have since relapsed back into the instagram-sphere. The only things keeping me there are group chats and Fortnite clips/memes. The biggest benefit was how much my attention span improved when I quit, but now I am back using insta and the itching feeling of grabbing my phone the moment I'm bored or stuck on something has returned. I need to re-read Deep Work and highly recommend it…

I know that itching feeling well, here's what's mostly worked for me: view your phone as tool with a limited set of functionality. For me, that functionality is: calls, texts, Google maps, Spotify, Audible, podcasts, and a camera.

That's it, no email (technically have the ability to send an email if i need to, but no notifications and no constant checking) and no random internet browsing and twitter etc consumption. I have some blocking apps that help with this, but the biggest thing I think is just the mindset. Twitter in line at the grocery store is no longer what my phone is for. Not that reading tabloid headlines is any better, but the main point is stretching out your focus muscles, getting rid of the urge to immediately grab your phone anytime there's a lull or hint of boredom in your life.

Overall, it's nice. Almost like being back in the 90's pre smart phone but also with a super powerful computer that can play any song you want/give you directions to anywhere when you need it to.

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It (2016)

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post #9

This is self-promotional, but also highly relevant! A few moths ago after reading Cal Newport's book "Deep Work", I decided to try to improve my social media usage by writing an app that could block HN/Twitter/Google News (the big 3 digital distractions for me) by default, and force me to go to an extra step to temporarily unblock them when I wanted to use them. It seems like a small thing, but that extra friction of…

HN has a built in noprocrast mode in the user's page

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It (2016)

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It feels like only months (OK, it's been a few years) since we were being told that not having a social media presence may be considered suspicious. http://business.time.com/2012/08/08/does-not-having-a-facebo...

There is a use for having a facebook account but never using it, and that is identity theft protection.

You don't want someone creating an account for you and hitting your friends up for money. It would be akin to someone taking over your phone number and asking family members/ friends to send a check.

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It (2016)

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post #20

Career and social life should be completely and utterly separated. The content on your social media page should have no bearing on your ability to perform the job at hand. Quite honestly, an employer that even looks at your social media profile to do a sort of casual "character check" on you, is not one that you should want to work for in the first place. Especially true in the realm of IT, where there just simply ar…

Yet github will not let you turn off star ratings, commit history and the fancy commit graph (which I consider social features). I know it's not an indicator of how good a dev you are, but "sometimes" recruiters are clueless about this fact.

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It (2016)

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post #20

Career and social life should be completely and utterly separated. The content on your social media page should have no bearing on your ability to perform the job at hand. Quite honestly, an employer that even looks at your social media profile to do a sort of casual "character check" on you, is not one that you should want to work for in the first place. Especially true in the realm of IT, where there just simply ar…

> Career and social life should be completely and utterly separated. The content on your social media page should have no bearing on your ability to perform the job at hand.

Yeah, but since the person hiring you hasn't worked with you yet, they're using a variety of imperfect indicators of how you'll perform.

I assume most people have some embarrassing and/or drug-related stuff on their social media. To me, it would indicate a lack of maturity if I (a stranger) could still see those. Could that be dead wrong? Absolutely! But as someone who hires people, I'm trying to find ways to filter candidates who often seem almost completely the same.

There's also the issue of whether your social media indicates a cultural mismatch. If someone is raging about immigrants on Twitter and our team has immigrants on it, I'm not going to hire that person.

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