Ask HN: Why nobody competes with Adobe? • Hacker News Board

Re: Ask HN: Why nobody competes with Adobe?

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Post by pacavaca » Wed, Mar 28, 2018, 1:59 AM UTC

mietek wrote: post #6

The competition has been assimilated. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altsys https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Beach_Software https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macromedia

I would even be okay with Adobe buying a company, which serves an entry-level market and offering its products separately from their old behemoths. Kind of like Atlassian sells JIRA, but for those, who don't like it - they bought Trello.

P.S. Macromedia Flash was so cool in 2006 :)

Re: Ask HN: Why nobody competes with Adobe?

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Post by kingnothing » Wed, Mar 28, 2018, 1:59 AM UTC

If we're looking at a single program, like Photoshop, I can get the best tool in the industry for $20 / month. You have three hurdles to overcome...

1. What would you do better than Photoshop?

2. How would you price it to be competitive?

3. How will you convince users that your product is worthwhile?

Re: Ask HN: Why nobody competes with Adobe?

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Post by joshAg » Wed, Mar 28, 2018, 2:00 AM UTC

check out avid media composer for your videos. It's priced reasonably.

Re: Ask HN: Why nobody competes with Adobe?

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Post by scarface74 » Wed, Mar 28, 2018, 2:00 AM UTC

Is anyone seriously investing in any commercial non SAAS software any more as a stand-alone product? No one is seriously competing with Microsoft Office either.

Re: Ask HN: Why nobody competes with Adobe?

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Post by omarchowdhury » Wed, Mar 28, 2018, 2:03 AM UTC

For UX/UI design, there's Sketch and Figma.

Re: Ask HN: Why nobody competes with Adobe?

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Post by pacavaca » Wed, Mar 28, 2018, 2:03 AM UTC

starmftronajoll wrote: post #8

Seems like the question would be to ask why nobody competes viably with Photoshop. Premiere is an odd example to single out — Avid and Final Cut, for instance, are full-featured and both have a substantial user base. The competition there is healthier than OP makes it out to be. As for Photoshop, once it became the standard, it stayed that way by virtue of user inertia and the massive development resources it would t…

Right, I would even narrow down my question to "why nobody competes Viably in a non-professional market". Both Avid and Final Cut are overkills for a ski-trip video editing, while simple things like iMovie and friends are waaay to stripped down.

Re: Ask HN: Why nobody competes with Adobe?

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Mar 28, 2018, 2:05 AM UTC

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Re: Ask HN: Why nobody competes with Adobe?

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Post by ocdtrekkie » Wed, Mar 28, 2018, 2:05 AM UTC

billconan wrote: post #2

I like photoshop and haven't found a good replacement. when muscle memory is built up, it's really difficult to learn and switch to a different tool. I have been searching for photoshop alternatives. but so far I haven't found any. For me photoshop is too expensive. I have even considered to implement my own (I only need a portion of the photoshop features) https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/ is what I found recently,…

I went ahead and jumped on Affinity myself, for everything I used Photoshop for, it works more than adequately. I won't pay a subscription fee for software I only use occasionally, so Adobe lost me when they went to Creative Cloud.

Re: Ask HN: Why nobody competes with Adobe?

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Post by pacavaca » Wed, Mar 28, 2018, 2:08 AM UTC

joshAg wrote: post #13

check out avid media composer for your videos. It's priced reasonably.

The website says $50/month == full creative suite price. It's probably a very reasonable price for a professional, who uses the tool every day and makes money on it, but for my needs, it's way overpriced...

Re: Ask HN: Why nobody competes with Adobe?

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Post by maxxxxx » Wed, Mar 28, 2018, 2:08 AM UTC

My experience is only with LightRoom and Photoshop and I have to say that their products are just very good. There is also a ton of learning material out there for Adobe products.

Hard to compete with that. Affinity photo is quite good but if I were a pro I would stick to Photoshop.