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Agile Ruined My Life

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Re: Agile Ruined My Life

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Implementing scrum turned our team from productive and mostly free of overhead to overbearing, involving a lot of long ass meetings (all meetings are long if you have to stand) and produced a lot of additional confusion. The interesting thing is that previously, with our specs and our so-called waterfall approach were were more agile. It happened naturally as we naturally did incremental development and we naturally…

whenever unit tests or test driven development comes up the proponents act like anyone not doing things this way is incompetent. I think the reverse is true

Can you elaborate on what you mean by this last part?

Re: Agile Ruined My Life

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Scrum consultants stay way past their usefulness, turning into self-aggrandizing organizational vampires.

I think there's something to be said for Scrum, and I think the shock therapy of a period of wholesale dogmatic adoption is the best way to start, with gradual backoff from Scrum dogma only after you appreciate the Scrum way, but goddammit you need to KICK THE CONSULTANTS OUT a few months after adoption and not let them set up camp inside your organization, playing politics to extend their gig as long as possible. The Scrum consultants in my company have been here almost a year. We know Scrum now. They still don't understand much about our business or our systems. Why are they here? Why do I keep hearing " says I can't do that," when is just a freaking process consultant who reports to a peer of your boss's boss? Why do we let them have that kind of power, when they only exercise it to pretend they still have something to teach us so we will keep paying them?

Also, the ScrumMaster role attracts the wrong kind of people. It attracts people who want power and want to be important. The desire for power conflicts VERY BADLY with being a good ScrumMaster, much worse than being a developer or manager or any other job I can think of. ScrumMaster is a simple role requiring only a little more process expertise than the chicken or pig roles. A ScrumMaster is a meeting facilitator. A ScrumMaster has no authority and no ninja skills. Being a ScrumMaster is like being the guy who can fix the printer. Having good ScrumMasters is very, very important, but they are not Important People. Does that make sense? They are not managers. People outside a Scrum team should not treat the ScrumMaster as a decision-maker or the proper conduit of information into the team. Bad ScrumMasters exploit those habits to aggrandize themselves and try to boss around their teams. Then they have power without responsibility.

Re: Agile Ruined My Life

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I'm not really anti-Agile, but I like seeing people question the crazy hype around it.

Agile is really just a collection of mostly decent project management and coding advice. It is absolutely not a silver bullet, and it's also not best suited for every project.

There is no substitute for actual coding skill, and there is no substitute for thinking about the specific demands of your specific project when deciding how to manage it, how to prioritize things, etc. Every project is different.

To put it even more simply: you cannot substitute a "McMethodology" for actually thinking.

Re: Agile Ruined My Life

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post #12

Scrum consultants stay way past their usefulness, turning into self-aggrandizing organizational vampires. I think there's something to be said for Scrum, and I think the shock therapy of a period of wholesale dogmatic adoption is the best way to start, with gradual backoff from Scrum dogma only after you appreciate the Scrum way, but goddammit you need to KICK THE CONSULTANTS OUT a few months after adoption and not l…

"Scrum consultants stay way past their usefulness, turning into self-aggrandizing organizational vampires."

s/Scrum/Management

FTFY.

Re: Agile Ruined My Life

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Amen. The greatest success I've had is using a hybrid approach of agile and waterfall. But, let's face it, Agile is anything but agile when it comes to the process. The Agilists out there will be the first to beat you over the head when you don't follow the process by the book.

Agile is anything but agile when it comes to the process. The Agilists out there will be the first to beat you over the head when you don't follow the process by the book.

There is a delicious irony here. The first bullet point of the Agile Manifesto is that individuals and interactions matter more than processes and tools. (See http://agilemanifesto.org/ if don't know what I'm talking about.)

The heart of the Agile movement at the start was that no one process fit all situations. So they tried to come up with whole families of methodologies exactly so that teams could choose the one that best fit their situation. Some of those methodologies proved popular. (eg Scrum.) Some people made a living out of pushing those. And voila! The message became, "Here is a magic methodology that is right for all situations, which we'll be glad to teach you about in our next expensive seminar!"

And so it happens. It seems that all revolutions are destined to become what they were revolting against.

Re: Agile Ruined My Life

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post #2

Implementing scrum turned our team from productive and mostly free of overhead to overbearing, involving a lot of long ass meetings (all meetings are long if you have to stand) and produced a lot of additional confusion. The interesting thing is that previously, with our specs and our so-called waterfall approach were were more agile. It happened naturally as we naturally did incremental development and we naturally…

The biggest determinant of success that I've seen is the skill of the programmers on the team.

No McMethodology can make crappy programmers write good code. Period.

(However, really bad management can make good programmers write crappy code too...)

Re: Agile Ruined My Life

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Hey Daniel,

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Re: Agile Ruined My Life

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When people start selling Agile methods and trying to replace ideas with routines, meetings and paperwork - it is became a scam, of course.

But the ideas, on which Agile was built upon - like interviewing experts of the problem domain, extracting and preserving slang and vocabulary from the stories and keeping that terminology through data, code and even a markup by naming the same thing the same name everywhere. Design for changes, code for reuse, start early and iterate, adapt and evolve - all those ideas are working ones.

So, the problem is just with pre-packaged methods and forced techniques. Each group, each project should realize usefulness of some of those ideas by changing their habits and by practicing, not because some "guru" told you that something is such and such. It is the only way.

It is a common situation when some ideas replaced by routines and propaganda and authority of "teachers". Buddhism is the best example. The essence of Buddha's teaching is several simple ideas and conclusions from them. But in many places people have transformed them into sets of rituals, rules and endless empty talks.

Re: Agile Ruined My Life

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As a young software developper, what really bores me with Agile, is the name, the shiny box you put things into, where it should just be named "Good practices for software developement". It's the mentality of selling things as products, with some kind of prebuilt ideology and aesthetic built along with the core, that really makes me run far far away. I don't want to be sold a product. The fact that it led people to t…

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