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Re: Apple SIM

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This isn’t new and it’s fairly expensive compared to Google Fi or T-Mobile. Might be worth it for customers in some countries but US users have much better choices for roaming internationally.

Where did you find pricing information? Google Fi is already outrageously expensive for data at $10/GB

It's unlimited after $60 (6GB) now, and even before then my bills were lower on Fi than they ever were even on family plans before that.

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Could a virtual SIM not replace physical SIMs, reducing the friction of switching providers? It seems we’re just waiting on carriers to catch up to the idea at the moment. https://www.kaspersky.com/blog/virtual-sim/11572/

Google already does it with Project Fi + Pixel. https://www.androidcentral.com/using-project-fi-pixel-2s-esi...

I came here to say this. I bought a Pixel 2 XL for my wife last year and there was an option to use SIM-less with Project Fi. I was confused at first and went with it, and it worked. Then I just stored the old SIM. To be honest I don't quite remember how was the process but I remember it was pretty easy to setup.

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I wonder if anyone on HN can recommend a cheap-ish tethering device? That had occurred to me before - some little hotspot thing I can throw a SIM card into. Maybe annoying to keep charged, though.

I wonder if simply a cheap Android phone would suffice?

I considered both the Android option and the mobile hotspot option, neither effectively solved the problem of using the local SIM for voice calls and providing access to my full contact database (which is currently stored in iCloud).

If you have no need for voice calls, or your address book, or have your address book stored on a more cross platform friendly service, then either of these solutions will work for you!

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#65
post #54

Whatever you do, do not purchase any device from AT&T. You will be locked in to GSM only networks.

Huh? LTE on AT&T has been a thing for a very long time, and it's not GSM.

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post #53

I've always wished that apple would offer this in the macbook pros. A laptop that doesn't have to tether, but just carries its own internet connection with it would be really nice.

I think this will make more sense once 5G is adopted. But even then carriers will either charge a lot for these data plans and/or severely underdeliver.

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> Why would they want to be in the messy business of running a carrier Does Fi run the carrier? I thought it used existing carriers and just supported seamless transition between them (and wifi). Regardless, the motivation would be to get that market they're missing that doesn't use one of the big 4. Granted Apple has never catered to that market, so not sure why they would now (it'd actually be detrimental to them I…

Fi's "included" roaming sounds great, until you realize how pathetically expensive even their domestic prices are. Fi's base price[0] is $20/mo + tax. Hallon (my current provider) will sell you 8GB/mo of data for $18/mo, tax included.[1] With Fi that would cost you.. $80/mo + tax. Hallon doesn't actually have anything comparable to that, price-wise; their most expensive plan is 100GB/mo at ~$40. And no, population de…

> I'd love if someone could explain how this price difference is somehow reasonable, because this just boggles my mind completely.

On regional differences, I see price differences as usually a combination of charging what they can, who they have to or want to compete against, cost of doing business, and how seriously they take the market. Or put more simply: either they have optimized for most money or they don't care enough.

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post #54

Whatever you do, do not purchase any device from AT&T. You will be locked in to GSM only networks.

Huh? LTE on AT&T has been a thing for a very long time, and it's not GSM.

I bought an iPhone 7 from AT&T, and the device is not compatible across the major carriers.

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#69
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I'm surprised Apple has created a proper Fi competitor yet. It would fit so well into their premium brand of "your iPhone works the moment you step off the plane wherever your amazing life takes you". They wouldn't have their UX tied to cell providers, who are some of the most unpleasant entities to interact with. They would probably be able to lean further into their personal security stance, by fully obfuscating th…

> It would fit so well into their premium brand of "your iPhone works the moment you step off the plane wherever your amazing life takes you". If there's anything that would make me buy an iPhone, this is it. I travel a lot between the US and Europe; I'm using Fi at the moment even though I shouldn't actually have access to it. It's mind boggling to me the crazy things we can do with tech today, and not make it all w…

There are T-Mobile plans that work this way.

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> Why would they want to be in the messy business of running a carrier Does Fi run the carrier? I thought it used existing carriers and just supported seamless transition between them (and wifi). Regardless, the motivation would be to get that market they're missing that doesn't use one of the big 4. Granted Apple has never catered to that market, so not sure why they would now (it'd actually be detrimental to them I…

Fi's "included" roaming sounds great, until you realize how pathetically expensive even their domestic prices are. Fi's base price[0] is $20/mo + tax. Hallon (my current provider) will sell you 8GB/mo of data for $18/mo, tax included.[1] With Fi that would cost you.. $80/mo + tax. Hallon doesn't actually have anything comparable to that, price-wise; their most expensive plan is 100GB/mo at ~$40. And no, population de…

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