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Lyft commits to closing wage gaps across race and gender

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Re: Lyft commits to closing wage gaps across race and gender

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Why is it that Asian people are earning 2x more than white people yet article is focusing on "white men"? Nice journalism. Not biased at all. https://i.imgur.com/rjmHYk0.png

This is wrong. The article states Asian males earn 117% as much, which is just 17% more. This is one of the things that turns me off Hacker News, an overly strong bias in defense of white men.

I believe in this case it was a simple misinterpretation of the terminology rather than nefarious intent.

Re: Lyft commits to closing wage gaps across race and gender

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post #8

Why is it that Asian people are earning 2x more than white people yet article is focusing on "white men"? Nice journalism. Not biased at all. https://i.imgur.com/rjmHYk0.png

This is wrong. The article states Asian males earn 117% as much, which is just 17% more. This is one of the things that turns me off Hacker News, an overly strong bias in defense of white men.

> This is one of the things that turns me off Hacker News, an overly strong bias in defense of white men.

Really? I feel the exact opposite. HN is full of articles like this, singling out white men, and claiming they are somehow either toxic or the beneficiaries of privilege.

I detest gender/identity politics, and don't think claims should be leveled against an entire group based on unrelated physical traits. This is the only reason I jump to defend "white men". If an article was posted making the same claims about another race/gender I would mount the same defense. However, those kinds of articles never show up here, because the are more obviously racist.

Re: Lyft commits to closing wage gaps across race and gender

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post #11
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is wrong. The article states Asian males earn 117% as much, which is just 17% more. This is one of the things that turns me off Hacker News, an overly strong bias in defense of white men.

I believe in this case it was a simple misinterpretation of the terminology rather than nefarious intent.

And I believe I've been here long enough to know that is not a very good assumption to make. Allowances such as yours are usually given in defense of white men, but hardly ever given for other groups.

Re: Lyft commits to closing wage gaps across race and gender

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post #5

Why is it that Asian people are earning 2x more than white people yet article is focusing on "white men"? Nice journalism. Not biased at all. https://i.imgur.com/rjmHYk0.png

There has been a strong hate towards white men in particular in recent years. Everything seems to be their fault if you read huffpo.

The problem is not white men, the problem is that our society has many (but not all) systemic biases that benefits them, at the expense of others. Many of these biases are so ingrained, they are invisible.

As a white man, I don't have to deal with many categories of bullshit that people of color and women are subjected to. I do have to deal with a few things that they don't, but there aren't many of them.

Re: Lyft commits to closing wage gaps across race and gender

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post #13
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe in this case it was a simple misinterpretation of the terminology rather than nefarious intent.

And I believe I've been here long enough to know that is not a very good assumption to make. Allowances such as yours are usually given in defense of white men, but hardly ever given for other groups.

The HN guidelines[0] encourage users to assume good faith in interpreting the comments of others, and I think that applies well here.

[0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Lyft commits to closing wage gaps across race and gender

#17
post #8

Why is it that Asian people are earning 2x more than white people yet article is focusing on "white men"? Nice journalism. Not biased at all. https://i.imgur.com/rjmHYk0.png

This is wrong. The article states Asian males earn 117% as much, which is just 17% more. This is one of the things that turns me off Hacker News, an overly strong bias in defense of white men.

Yes, you are right. But even so - the point stands. I'm not trying to defend anything, especially white men. I'm just saying this journalism is biased to portray white men in bad light.

Re: Lyft commits to closing wage gaps across race and gender

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post #15
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There has been a strong hate towards white men in particular in recent years. Everything seems to be their fault if you read huffpo.

The problem is not white men, the problem is that our society has many (but not all) systemic biases that benefits them, at the expense of others. Many of these biases are so ingrained, they are invisible. As a white man, I don't have to deal with many categories of bullshit that people of color and women are subjected to. I do have to deal with a few things that they don't, but there aren't many of them.

This seems like a wildly sexist and racist sentiment. Do you have any evidence that being a white man causes you to have greater opportunities?

Re: Lyft commits to closing wage gaps across race and gender

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post #15
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There has been a strong hate towards white men in particular in recent years. Everything seems to be their fault if you read huffpo.

The problem is not white men, the problem is that our society has many (but not all) systemic biases that benefits them, at the expense of others. Many of these biases are so ingrained, they are invisible. As a white man, I don't have to deal with many categories of bullshit that people of color and women are subjected to. I do have to deal with a few things that they don't, but there aren't many of them.

As a man, you're more likely to be murdered, killed in a war, commit suicide, die in a workplace accident, and be sentenced to prison disproportionately longer for the same crime as compared to women.

Re: Lyft commits to closing wage gaps across race and gender

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post #13
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe in this case it was a simple misinterpretation of the terminology rather than nefarious intent.

And I believe I've been here long enough to know that is not a very good assumption to make. Allowances such as yours are usually given in defense of white men, but hardly ever given for other groups.

why are you assuming OP is a white man? is that the only group who ever notices the funny corners of race math?
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