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GIMP 2.10.0 Release Candidate 1 Released

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Re: GIMP 2.10.0 Release Candidate 1 Released

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Post by athorax »

yoz-y wrote: post #29

GIMP was the first advanced image editor I have used. I grew quite fond of it and its tools. Nowadays I have moved away from it because it does not play well with macOS, but still return to it when I am on a Linux box. For me, GIMP has always excelled in making simple actions simple. Even today I am quite surprised that other software has not taken some of the ideas for interface that gimp has. Mainly: - The selectio…

Out of curiosity, what issues do you see on macOS? I use it fairly rarely for minor editing, but haven't hit any real issues with it

Re: GIMP 2.10.0 Release Candidate 1 Released

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Post by bitwize »

avian wrote: post #23
nkkollaw wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You did and will keep getting downvoted (like my comment below about GIMP's usability will), but you're absolutely right. This is another case where developers decide what's cool, and of course pick features that are cool to them, not their users. Not once in my life would I ever think I'm missing that feature in GIMP.

Did you stop to think that perhaps GIMP's developers are in fact its users? I'm an engineer and I draw as a hobby. I don't mind developer-oriented features in my drawing program. If I wanted Photoshop, I would be using that.

You may not mind developer-oriented features, but the vast, vast majority of artists do. This is why Photoshop wins. Adobe has customers, and Photoshop's devs have to either listen to the customers, or be fired.

Re: GIMP 2.10.0 Release Candidate 1 Released

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Post by seba_dos1 »

userbinator wrote: post #4

A new Dashboard dock helps with monitoring GIMP’s resource usage to keep things in check, allowing you to make more educated decisions about various configuration options. That looks so ridiculous and out-of-place in an image editing program. If it weren't for the left side, you'd think it was Visual Studio! https://msdnshared.blob.core.windows.net/media/MSDNBlogsFS/p...

Uhm, even Photoshop has something like that. Once you work with high resolution files with lots of layers, you absolutely need to "make educated decisions about various configuration options" or you'll suffer waiting ages for every simple operation to complete.

Re: GIMP 2.10.0 Release Candidate 1 Released

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Post by zzzcpan »

gilrain wrote: post #45
callahad wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Krita ( https://krita.org ) is 12 years old, and just released version 4.0 last week. HN comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16647445

And if you complain that Krita lacks photo manipulation features, you're told "Of course, because Krita is only targeted at illustrators!" The open source evangelists always have a dodge.

Inkscape, mypaint and gimp is pretty much all there is to use professionally on linux. And they complement each other surprisingly well. Inkscape is the main workhorse, mypaint is for sketches and gimp is to prepare some photos and raster images to import into inkscape (you can't do a lot in gimp).

Re: GIMP 2.10.0 Release Candidate 1 Released

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Post by homarp »

hisham_hm wrote: post #32
damyyy wrote: post #14

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This is just a myth. You make it sound like there was some purposeful intention to gimp and gtk. There was not. Gimp was created by some kids at berkeley who created gtk because at the time qt and motif had untenable cost and or licensing, or sucked. When the gnome project started years later gtk was chosen due to licensing considerations since ironically qt was “too free” ie pure gpl which limited its use in closed…

> gtk was chosen due to licensing considerations since ironically qt was “too free” ie pure gpl which limited its use in closed source software without licensing This is wrong. GNOME was already well underway when Qt switched to GPL. Before that it used QPL and before that yet another license.

The GNOME desktop environment - https://www.usenix.org/legacy/publications/library/proceedin...

"Sadly, the KDE effort is based on the Qt user interface toolkit which is a non-free library. The main problem is that modification of the toolkit is not allowed. The ability to modify the interface toolkit is a requirement of free software[6] and of the Open Source Software Guidelines[17]. Although Qt is released in source form, permission to redistribute changes made to it is denied."

Re: GIMP 2.10.0 Release Candidate 1 Released

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Post by anc84 »

userbinator wrote: post #4

A new Dashboard dock helps with monitoring GIMP’s resource usage to keep things in check, allowing you to make more educated decisions about various configuration options. That looks so ridiculous and out-of-place in an image editing program. If it weren't for the left side, you'd think it was Visual Studio! https://msdnshared.blob.core.windows.net/media/MSDNBlogsFS/p...

The text around the image elaborates on its intended, reasonable use.

> A new Dashboard dock helps with monitoring GIMP’s resource usage to keep things in check, allowing you to make more educated decisions about various configuration options. Dashboard dock

> On the developer side, it also helps us in debugging and profiling various operations or parts of the interface, which is important in our constant quest to improve GIMP and GEGL, and detect which parts are the biggest bottlenecks.

Re: GIMP 2.10.0 Release Candidate 1 Released

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Post by zzzcpan »

laurent123456 wrote: post #47

I've tried to use GIMP over several years but never got used to it. Things like resizing and transforming layers, applying filters, etc. are too cumbersome. Many tools also don't have a live preview, which means there's many attempts before getting the needed result. Now I'm back to Photoshop CS3 from 11 years ago, yet many years ahead of today's GIMP. It has smart objects and filters, layer effects, live previews an…

Well, Gimp was never a replacement for photoshop.

Re: GIMP 2.10.0 Release Candidate 1 Released

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Post by seba_dos1 »

bitwize wrote: post #52
avian wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you stop to think that perhaps GIMP's developers are in fact its users? I'm an engineer and I draw as a hobby. I don't mind developer-oriented features in my drawing program. If I wanted Photoshop, I would be using that.

You may not mind developer-oriented features, but the vast, vast majority of artists do . This is why Photoshop wins. Adobe has customers , and Photoshop's devs have to either listen to the customers, or be fired.

Which is exactly why a feature like the one we're discussing has been included in Photoshop for ages, along with stuff like custom swap space management for image buffers? :P

Re: GIMP 2.10.0 Release Candidate 1 Released

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Post by lovelearning »

gilrain wrote: post #45
callahad wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Krita ( https://krita.org ) is 12 years old, and just released version 4.0 last week. HN comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16647445

And if you complain that Krita lacks photo manipulation features, you're told "Of course, because Krita is only targeted at illustrators!" The open source evangelists always have a dodge.

What's with the entitlement here? These are people sacrificing their time and going largely unpaid (AFAIK) for their efforts. I for one am happy and grateful that these "dodgy" open source evangelists exist and offer us all a choice for free. If I have a subjective usability problem with their software, far more constructive to take the effort to try and fix it myself than complain like a diva.

Re: GIMP 2.10.0 Release Candidate 1 Released

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Post by skykooler »

yoz-y wrote: post #29

GIMP was the first advanced image editor I have used. I grew quite fond of it and its tools. Nowadays I have moved away from it because it does not play well with macOS, but still return to it when I am on a Linux box. For me, GIMP has always excelled in making simple actions simple. Even today I am quite surprised that other software has not taken some of the ideas for interface that gimp has. Mainly: - The selectio…

Color to alpha is something that I am consistently surprised that Photoshop lacks, every time I try to use it for something.
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