Android Studio 3.1 Stable • Hacker News Board

Re: Android Studio 3.1 Stable

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Post by hazza1 » Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 1:43 AM UTC

mdellavo wrote: post #8

clumsysmurf wrote: post #4

Android Studio has such a fat ass. Every release it, and gradle, want more memory to do the same thing. I'm hoping that the tools devs improve or review the resource usage of the gradle plugin, etc. VS Code and the flutter tooling are svelte in comparison.

Yeah I agree that has been the case but lowering memory usage has been a target of recent for Android Studio - See https://developer.android.com/studio/releases/index.html#3-1... It's even using less memory than chrome lately.

Using less memory than chrome is the very definition of faint praise.

Re: Android Studio 3.1 Stable

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Post by bmpafa » Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 2:40 AM UTC

adl wrote: post #7

bmpafa wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a JavaScript / typescript guy, so for me these past few years VS code has been leaps and bounds ahead of WebStorm w/ extensions,etc. But lately I've been using Datagrip for SQL stuff,and geez, did Jetbrain crush the competition w/ this product. ...once I switched the shortcuts to match VS Code's, that is

Could you elaborate? VS Code is faster/leaner than WebStorm, that's for sure, but are there any specific workflows that you feel VSCode is better than WS?

I found WebStorm a bit overwhelming when I first tried it (I was fairly new at the time), which made any workflow a little difficult for me out of the gate.

That, and I remember Staples of the JS ecosystem (eg ESLint) being somewhat difficult to set up. Maybe they were simple if one knew the Jetbrain workflows, but for me, esp. compared to VS Code, it seemed a huge undertaking just to get ESLint to work.

Actually, here's an SO question I posted awhile back about ESLint in WebStorm (well, intelliJ). This was shortly before I made the switch to Code.

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/34700062/intellij-plugin...

Re: Android Studio 3.1 Stable

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Post by on_and_off » Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 2:50 AM UTC

I was going to say that this is not a very big update but it brings https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/whatsnew/#v2017-3

and with it, type hints.

This should be very useful in kotlin with rx. map calls are often hard to follow without explicitly writing types.

This sounds like the best of both worlds.

Re: Android Studio 3.1 Stable

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Post by Abishek_Muthian » Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 2:56 AM UTC

I hope the memory enhancements show considerable improvements. I've seen people with >32 GB memory complaining that AS eating enough RAM to affect productivity.

Tip: If you have dual GPU system try launching AS, android emulator, Idea, WS, Pycharm, with the discrete GPU i.e (Linux/ATI in my case).

'DRI_PRIME=1 ../studio.sh'

bash -c "LD_PRELOAD='/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6' DRI_PRIME=1 ../android-sdk/emulator/emulator -avd Nexus_5X_API_27 -gpu host"

I have seen considerable improvements in productivity for the same codebase with 3rd gen corei5 with ATI 7400M series GPU vs 7th gen corei5 with intel integrated gpu both having same memory. The OS setup is same.

Obviously, java by itself isn't using the VRAM; I assume the visual rendering of IDE's & emulators use it and leaves enough RAM for the AS to gulp.

Re: Android Studio 3.1 Stable

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Post by doubleocherry » Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 4:00 AM UTC

bmpafa wrote: post #3

wpdev_63 wrote: post #2

Android Studio, and in turn, Jetbrain's IDE are an absolute godsend for productivity. Quick actions, macros, shortcut egornomics, etc. are top notch and make me a happy developer. I would even dare to say, it's a better IDE than Visual Studio. runs for cover

I'm a JavaScript / typescript guy, so for me these past few years VS code has been leaps and bounds ahead of WebStorm w/ extensions,etc. But lately I've been using Datagrip for SQL stuff,and geez, did Jetbrain crush the competition w/ this product. ...once I switched the shortcuts to match VS Code's, that is

+1 for Datagrip, use it everyday

Re: Android Studio 3.1 Stable

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Post by dheera » Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 5:19 AM UTC

wpdev_63 wrote: post #2

Android Studio, and in turn, Jetbrain's IDE are an absolute godsend for productivity. Quick actions, macros, shortcut egornomics, etc. are top notch and make me a happy developer. I would even dare to say, it's a better IDE than Visual Studio. runs for cover

Almost every release of Android Studio has succeeded in breaking every single Android app I wrote. I have always had to cut and paste every class, resource, layout, one by one into a new project in order to get it to compile. I always fear pressing the "update" button.

Re: Android Studio 3.1 Stable

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Post by pjmlp » Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 5:39 AM UTC

wpdev_63 wrote: post #2

Android Studio, and in turn, Jetbrain's IDE are an absolute godsend for productivity. Quick actions, macros, shortcut egornomics, etc. are top notch and make me a happy developer. I would even dare to say, it's a better IDE than Visual Studio. runs for cover

Yeah, when running on my gamer ring.

Android Studio's performance made me loose interess on JetBrain products.

Xeon class CPU, SSD and at least 16 GB RAM should be written on the box.

Re: Android Studio 3.1 Stable

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Post by akx » Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 6:36 AM UTC

bmpafa wrote: post #12

adl wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you elaborate? VS Code is faster/leaner than WebStorm, that's for sure, but are there any specific workflows that you feel VSCode is better than WS?

I found WebStorm a bit overwhelming when I first tried it (I was fairly new at the time), which made any workflow a little difficult for me out of the gate. That, and I remember Staples of the JS ecosystem (eg ESLint) being somewhat difficult to set up. Maybe they were simple if one knew the Jetbrain workflows, but for me, esp. compared to VS Code, it seemed a huge undertaking just to get ESLint to work. Actually, he…

These days PyCharm (and as such, probably WebStorm too) just auto-configures itself to ESlint files if it detects it's installed.

Re: Android Studio 3.1 Stable

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Post by adl » Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 7:11 AM UTC

pjmlp wrote: post #17

wpdev_63 wrote: post #2

Android Studio, and in turn, Jetbrain's IDE are an absolute godsend for productivity. Quick actions, macros, shortcut egornomics, etc. are top notch and make me a happy developer. I would even dare to say, it's a better IDE than Visual Studio. runs for cover

Yeah, when running on my gamer ring. Android Studio's performance made me loose interess on JetBrain products. Xeon class CPU, SSD and at least 16 GB RAM should be written on the box.

That's mostly Gradle. Jetbrains IDEs are not exactly lean, but Android's use of Gradle is an exercise in patience, even on the command line.

Re: Android Studio 3.1 Stable

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Post by tstieff » Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 7:18 AM UTC

Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #14

I hope the memory enhancements show considerable improvements. I've seen people with >32 GB memory complaining that AS eating enough RAM to affect productivity. Tip: If you have dual GPU system try launching AS, android emulator, Idea, WS, Pycharm, with the discrete GPU i.e (Linux/ATI in my case). 'DRI_PRIME=1 ../studio.sh' bash -c "LD_PRELOAD='/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6' DRI_PRIME=1 ../android-sdk/emulator/emulator -av…

I've found that giving IntelliJ (or Android Studio) too much memory can actually backfire. The Java process ends up using all the memory you give it, but this also results in long GC pauses past a certain point. If you're curious, turn on the memory inidicator in the app with Settings -> Appearance -> Appearance -> Show memory indicator. I've found 2gb - 4gb to be the sweet spot depending on project size.