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Based what I learned about Uber their self driving cars probably run on NodeJS. I'm only half joking.
I don't actually know what a self driving car should run on, I would want to make it in Erlang or Rust but - what do you think a self driving car should be running on?
Saying nothing about Google/Waymo, it appears they're allowed to continue? Their self-driving technology seems far more advanced, I think it would be unfair to punish all the players for the bad actions of a few. In particular, Uber seems to have been operating self-driving cars recklessly and in an attempt to "move fast and break things". When those things are people's lives, that's unacceptable. I'm all for interes…
Based what I learned about Uber their self driving cars probably run on NodeJS. I'm only half joking.
I don't actually know what a self driving car should run on, I would want to make it in Erlang or Rust but - what do you think a self driving car should be running on?
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It's certainly prudent to do so, and any amount of self-preservation says you should, but is not checking if you're about to be run over actually negligent ? Edit: Also, if you as a pedestrian, stand at a 35mph road, at night, and wait for all approaching cars to stop before you start crossing, you will be standing there a very long time indeed.
One legal definition of negligence is A failure to behave with the level of care that someone of ordinary prudence would have exercised under the same circumstances. If you've established that doing so is "certainly prudent", then I think it's reasonable that not doing so is negligent.
We can agree the pedestrian had some degree of negligence by walking across the road in a less than perfectly safe manner.
But the same assessment also applies for Uber, for not reacting to an obstacle that probably should have been detected.
The question right now is what degree of negligence does Uber bear...
Several comments here making comparisons to human drivers. As if autonomous cars are ok so long as they are at or below parity with humans. This is statistically true but a complete misunderstanding of human nature. Human risk tolerance varies drastically depending on control/participation. What is the acceptable casualty rate of elevators?
(not that it applies in this case. Uber's cars compare disfavourably to human drivers)
Amen. Uber's fatal accident rate is now 50x that of sober human driver's. At their current rate of driving, they can't have a _lower_ rate until 2028! Inexcusable failure of their technology to prevent a human death in the most basic collision avoidance scenario.
Understand statistics before employing them please. We don't have enough data and a single data point doesn't change that.
Saying nothing about Google/Waymo, it appears they're allowed to continue? Their self-driving technology seems far more advanced, I think it would be unfair to punish all the players for the bad actions of a few. In particular, Uber seems to have been operating self-driving cars recklessly and in an attempt to "move fast and break things". When those things are people's lives, that's unacceptable. I'm all for interes…
For what? For a few temporary (the plan is to be fully autonomous quickly) low paying test driver jobs? The engineers making the big salaries stayed in California (or Pittsburgh in Uber's case).
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.fox10phoenix.com/news/arizona...
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I don't actually know what a self driving car should run on, I would want to make it in Erlang or Rust but - what do you think a self driving car should be running on?
Some kind of realtime system. A GC pause of 200ms in a car could easily cause a crash. Sadly, I fear it may actually be written in C++.
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This is an example of the strong tendency to blame pedestrians for most to all pedestrian-vehicle collisions. In reality, pedestrians are generally at the bottom of the list for blame, behind even the engineers who designed the roads in the first place. In this situation, there is no evidence that the pedestrian did anything dangerous. She was crossing in what amounts to an unmarked crosswalk. When struck, she was we…
> If you object to the idea that it's an unmarked crosswalk I do. I've never seen another crosswalk with a "no pedestrians" sign.
We had local PD actually pull a very similar sting operation that had people complaining recently. They had a police officer with a baby stroller cross at an unmarked crosswalk and gave tickets to all drivers who did not stop for her to finish crossing the street.
And going back to my teenage years, that was the one ding I had on my drivers' test (again, in California). I had stopped for a pedestrian to cross, but I did not wait until that person was completely across the road before starting again.
Regardless, the video that was shared does not reflect the real world. There have been plenty of photographs including the one in this article: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-26/uber-disa... and this one https://imgur.com/a/PM7uu that show the area as well lit. I have trouble believing that the best quality video that a self-driving car company has available in it's vehicles is the one that they produced after the accident. Spending $40k on the car and $80 on a low end consumer level dash camera? That doesn't pass the sniff test.
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Hopefully Waymo has test drivers that actually pay attention.
Unlike Uber, Waymo has always said they do not believe (based on data and experience) "safety drivers" are a realistic safety measure, because normal human beings do not have the ability to concentrate hard on a task for 8 hours a day that they have absolutely no control/feedback upon. If this is not obvious to you, you have never tried doing such a task. Try it and you will change your mind immediately.