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Arizona Government Suspends Uber's Self Driving Cars from Roads

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Re: Arizona Government Suspends Uber's Self Driving Cars from Roads

#101

How is this company still in business...karma is chasing it all the way down to oblivion!

Outside of Hacker News, I have never encountered anyone who followed, was fully aware of, or cared about Uber scandals. From my conversations, it seems that people in my city hate taxi companies so much that it takes more than a couple of manslaughters to make them stop using Uber.

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Based what I learned about Uber their self driving cars probably run on NodeJS. I'm only half joking.

I don't actually know what a self driving car should run on, I would want to make it in Erlang or Rust but - what do you think a self driving car should be running on?

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#103

I don't know much about the logic used in self-driving cars - but I do wonder how they will handle roundabouts. We have a lot of them here (Australia) and you have to give way to a car that is approaching or entering the roundabout on your right - which often is opposite you. How will a self-driving car cope with detecting a vehicle behind the concrete barrier of a roundabout?

In Mountain View, I once saw a Google/Waymo car trying to cross traffic and turn left onto Rengstorff Ave, which is a pretty busy street in the evenings. As a human driver, I wouldn't know how to do it unless there was a miraculous break in traffic, I would have just turned right and go the opposite direction and make a u-turn elsewhere. So like you, I'm curious how it handled that situation as well.

Re: Arizona Government Suspends Uber's Self Driving Cars from Roads

#104

Saying nothing about Google/Waymo, it appears they're allowed to continue? Their self-driving technology seems far more advanced, I think it would be unfair to punish all the players for the bad actions of a few. In particular, Uber seems to have been operating self-driving cars recklessly and in an attempt to "move fast and break things". When those things are people's lives, that's unacceptable. I'm all for interes…

Or maybe Uber got unlucky and they had to be suspended. I wonder how many miles they had and every how many miles does an accident happens with human drivers.

Uber did not get unlucky -- they are simply an evil company. Their cars need human intervention every 13 miles as opposed to Google's every 5,600 miles -- they were not fit for the road but Uber let them out anyways.

Uber should be shut down and the principals should get life without parole.

Re: Arizona Government Suspends Uber's Self Driving Cars from Roads

#105
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Based what I learned about Uber their self driving cars probably run on NodeJS. I'm only half joking.

I don't actually know what a self driving car should run on, I would want to make it in Erlang or Rust but - what do you think a self driving car should be running on?

VB Script

Re: Arizona Government Suspends Uber's Self Driving Cars from Roads

#106

I don't know much about the logic used in self-driving cars - but I do wonder how they will handle roundabouts. We have a lot of them here (Australia) and you have to give way to a car that is approaching or entering the roundabout on your right - which often is opposite you. How will a self-driving car cope with detecting a vehicle behind the concrete barrier of a roundabout?

In Europe we have a lot of roundabouts that work the opposite way, priority is given to anyone inside/exiting the roundabout, which would seem easier to handle for automated systems.

Re: Arizona Government Suspends Uber's Self Driving Cars from Roads

#107

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>What bad actions? Uber disabled the safety systems included with the car that was involved in the incident. They relied solely on their own, half-baked tech when these systems could have saved the life of person who was killed: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-26/uber-disa...

Thanks. This makes sense then. Why did they do this?

One can only speculate at this point, but the only thing consistent about Uber is their recklessness and disregard for others.

Re: Arizona Government Suspends Uber's Self Driving Cars from Roads

#108

I don't know much about the logic used in self-driving cars - but I do wonder how they will handle roundabouts. We have a lot of them here (Australia) and you have to give way to a car that is approaching or entering the roundabout on your right - which often is opposite you. How will a self-driving car cope with detecting a vehicle behind the concrete barrier of a roundabout?

No, the roundabout rule is that a vehicle entering a roundabout must give way to any vehicle already on the roundabout, or a tram that is entering or approaching the roundabout.

See the Australian Road Rules, Part 9: https://www.pcc.gov.au/uniform/Australian-Road-Rules-19March...

If you are approaching the roundabout and someone enters it from your left before you get there, you have to give way to them.

Re: Arizona Government Suspends Uber's Self Driving Cars from Roads

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I think the public will probably feel the same way, but if this happens again with another company, I think there will be sustained backlash. Hopefully Waymo is as advanced as they’re advertising, and given what a terrible company Uber is by comparison, that doesn’t seem to be an unreasonable assumption. You know what they say though, once is a mistake, twice is a habit.

> You know what they say though, once is a mistake, twice is a habit. This line of thinking might end up with more people dead by delaying the advancement of SDC's.

All the more reason to get rid of companies like Uber, who endanger the entire self-driving endeavour with their habitual reckless behaviour.

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Yes Waymo is still active. I live in the testing zone and see an enormous amount of their vans. About 1 for every 5 minutes of driving.

I drove down a main road here in Chandler, Arizona yesterday and saw three in five minutes. Based on all my experiences on the road with them in the last few months I’d say the chances of them having an incident similar to Uber are much less.

I actually trust the waymo cars more than regular ones now when I'm on my bicycle or motorcycle. Granted they are absurdly "cautious drivers" and can be mildly annoying to be stuck behind in a car.
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