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Re: Show HN: Textile – Return Facebook photo exports back to nicely-named galleries

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Post by andrewxhill »

wybiral wrote: post #40
andrewxhill wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While it is going to cost money of course, this is exactly what we are building into our product. But instead of using centralized servers that know your private keys, we are building it on decentralized hosting (IPFS) and we never know your private keys. Take a look, https://www.textile.photos/

I thought IPFS required someone to pin/host the content in order for it to stay alive. So if it's private how many people are likely to host it? Or am I missing a detail?

Until filecoin is live we are spinning up ifps nodes to ensure your content is available. Alternatively, we are building both a mobile and desktop client and you'll be able to just choose to have your desktop automatically pin your content. Finally we provide you a private wallet that will contain your personal hash list, making it so you could move your data to other services or tools however you like.

Re: Show HN: Textile – Return Facebook photo exports back to nicely-named galleries

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Post by askvictor »

andrewxhill wrote: post #38
askvictor wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed, but for this kind of thing to make a serious dent in Facebook, it would need to include a photo hosting and sharing service. Which, unfortunately, cost money to hold the data, so you either need to charge for hosting, or collect revenue through ads or selling data (self-hosting would be nice, but difficult to get your grandma to do it) But, maybe even a simple photo sharing service _that lets you share those…

While it is going to cost money of course, this is exactly what we are building into our product. But instead of using centralized servers that know your private keys, we are building it on decentralized hosting (IPFS) and we never know your private keys. Take a look, https://www.textile.photos/

That's pretty cool. Can I suggest though, that sharing easily on other platforms will be important (at least as a stepping stone)? So that might involve building a facebook app that shows shared photos as well as the default one. Even though this might seem counter to #deletefacebook, I think you need to let people take small steps to taking their data back.

Re: Show HN: Textile – Return Facebook photo exports back to nicely-named galleries

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Post by andrewxhill »

askvictor wrote: post #42
andrewxhill wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While it is going to cost money of course, this is exactly what we are building into our product. But instead of using centralized servers that know your private keys, we are building it on decentralized hosting (IPFS) and we never know your private keys. Take a look, https://www.textile.photos/

That's pretty cool. Can I suggest though, that sharing easily on other platforms will be important (at least as a stepping stone)? So that might involve building a facebook app that shows shared photos as well as the default one. Even though this might seem counter to #deletefacebook, I think you need to let people take small steps to taking their data back.

Totally, I'm into that. One of the big motivators here is how painful it is currently to move _your_ photos (or any personal data) across services. We want to build an open system where you control where your data goes and how. It seems like a great idea to have outbound integration like that for sure.

Re: Show HN: Textile – Return Facebook photo exports back to nicely-named galleries

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Post by timb07 »

andrewxhill wrote: post #6
sachleen wrote: post #4

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That was the first thing I looked for. Cool that it runs in browser instead of uploading all of my data to their server.

If you're into that, check out our core project, https://www.textile.photos/ . The idea is to give you control of all your data (starting with photos) doing backup not on our servers but on a decentralized service called IPFS, so you can maintain control and ownership of your data, always.

Please also check your waitlist signup form processing -- I've tried it multiple times, but haven't received an email yet.

(Yes, I've checked I've typed it correctly, and it's not in my junk folder.)

Re: Show HN: Textile – Return Facebook photo exports back to nicely-named galleries

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Post by zamalek »

headsoup wrote: post #10

Things like this are what might actually turn the trending #deletefacebook statements into actions. Maybe. While it's nice that 'alternative Facebooks' are gaining visibility, those I don't think will really get people out. Simple tools on the other hand, to give people their data in a usable format, will. Next, perhaps a nice 'export registered groups with Admin and user list,' or 'list of sites I've used Facebook l…

> alternative Facebooks

I signed up for Mastodon a few minutes ago and... it's not Facebook. It's Twitter. My mother of 80 isn't interested in sending Tweets or Toots. Marketing and recommending these things correctly might be a good first step.

Re: Show HN: Textile – Return Facebook photo exports back to nicely-named galleries

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Post by carsonfarmer »

headsoup wrote: post #35
askvictor wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed, but for this kind of thing to make a serious dent in Facebook, it would need to include a photo hosting and sharing service. Which, unfortunately, cost money to hold the data, so you either need to charge for hosting, or collect revenue through ads or selling data (self-hosting would be nice, but difficult to get your grandma to do it) But, maybe even a simple photo sharing service _that lets you share those…

I wonder if something useful here is a service like what some NASes (Synology) provide, where you 'self-host' on your PC/NAS, but also replicate to someone you know's PC/NAS. Basically, install the app on both PCs, swap keys (or authentication details) and start synching. Cloud backup without needing cloud and it would be bi-directional so you get off-site redundancy for your data/photos. Further leveraging the SAN c…

This is in line with what we are building right now at https://www.textile.photos/. See andrewxhill's response above re: mobile and desktop apps that automagically sync with one another. Getting grandma on board is always difficult, but with super simple (and super secure) inter-device linking, we're hoping to lower that barrier to entry big time!

Re: Show HN: Textile – Return Facebook photo exports back to nicely-named galleries

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Post by carsonfarmer »

timb07 wrote: post #44
andrewxhill wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're into that, check out our core project, https://www.textile.photos/ . The idea is to give you control of all your data (starting with photos) doing backup not on our servers but on a decentralized service called IPFS, so you can maintain control and ownership of your data, always.

Please also check your waitlist signup form processing -- I've tried it multiple times, but haven't received an email yet. (Yes, I've checked I've typed it correctly, and it's not in my junk folder.)

Were you able to register timb07? If not, let me know and we'll tweak things on our end.

Re: Show HN: Textile – Return Facebook photo exports back to nicely-named galleries

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Post by mikenew »

zamalek wrote: post #45
headsoup wrote: post #10

Things like this are what might actually turn the trending #deletefacebook statements into actions. Maybe. While it's nice that 'alternative Facebooks' are gaining visibility, those I don't think will really get people out. Simple tools on the other hand, to give people their data in a usable format, will. Next, perhaps a nice 'export registered groups with Admin and user list,' or 'list of sites I've used Facebook l…

> alternative Facebooks I signed up for Mastodon a few minutes ago and... it's not Facebook. It's Twitter. My mother of 80 isn't interested in sending Tweets or Toots. Marketing and recommending these things correctly might be a good first step.

And speaking of marketing... Toot? Seriously?
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