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Re: Medium suspended our account and blocked access to all our published stories

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Post by gkya » Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 4:10 PM UTC

KajMagnus wrote: post #229

gkya wrote: post #220

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The best other service: a mailto: link. People do write e-mails on posts they like, sometimes. Also, 9 out of 10 comment threads under blog posts I've read are just plain stupid logorrhoea. Maybe a subreddit would work too?

What do you think about https://www.talkyard.io/blog-comments ? I'm developing it and if you or the ancestors have any thoughts or feedback that'd be interesting to hear

I personally prefer not having comments at all in personal blogs. Tho the sytem seems robust and comprehensive, would be useful for those who want to incorporate comments in blog posts or support pages. An immediate criticism is that the web page needs a bit of work. It was unusable in Firefox for android, with half the video off screen. Also, the video is kinda cryptic, some narration, written or spoken, would be a nice addition. That it's OSS is really compelling, I personally would be more likely to buy hosted service from you because it's so. But maybe that's not the general stance.

Overall, kudos, this seems cool!

Re: Medium suspended our account and blocked access to all our published stories

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Post by ChicagoDave » Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 5:42 PM UTC

rock_hard wrote: post #227

ChicagoDave wrote: post #136

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It's hard to measure this in hindsight. Someone would have to do a controlled study. That said, Given the number of voters that stayed home in 2016 (over 10% in the key states of WI, MI, OH, and PA) and the number of people who voted "against Clinton" suggests it was highly effective. Cambridge Analytica and similar firms have a data set of how emotions can impact certain kinds of people. They have openly admitted th…

I personally think Clinton ran a poor campaign without being able to create and excitement at scale and Trump wasn’t a option for many (including me) so that may also explain the spike in people who stayed home.

Can you say 100% that your view of Clinton wasn’t impacted by the negative news push by CA?

Re: Medium suspended our account and blocked access to all our published stories

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Post by ken » Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 5:58 PM UTC

user5994461 wrote: post #184

ken wrote: post #42

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> Maintaining a static site with a CDN costs less than 5$ a month. That's putting it mildly! I host a (small) static webpage on AWS S3 + CloudFront, and my monthly bill is 56 cents.

56 cts until one of your article gets published on HN and you are billed for a TB of data transfer.

It was on top of HN last year. I paid 60 cents that month.

The AWS CDN is really cheap, and 1 TB is a truly massive amount. Remember, this is static content, not megabytes of useless JS dependencies.

In any event, it's easy to set a budget in AWS. I'll add one now, just to be safe.

Re: Medium suspended our account and blocked access to all our published stories

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Post by otakucode » Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 6:18 PM UTC

intopieces wrote: post #138

Zak wrote: post #70

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Suppressing an automated service disruption or preventing the spread of spam is different from policing content on topical or ideological grounds. Looking at reddit as an example, I don't like where this is headed. First they came for pedos and creepers, and I said nothing because ewww. Then they came for assholes and trolls, and I said nothing because good riddance. Now they've come for gun coupons, and I don't want…

>I don't want to flee to Voat because it's dominated by assholes and trolls. It’s exactly this sentiment that prompts services like Reddit to censor. They need users; it’s no use being a bastion of free speech if you are hemorrhaging ad dollars because assholes and trolls ruin your platform.

That's always struck me as weird. Do you avoid using a telephone because pedophiles and terrorists use them? Of course not. It's a part of infrastructure that facilitates communication, nothing more. If you go to Reddit and hang out on r/python or something you're not going to accidentally slip, trip, and fall right into r/the_donald or something. I just think modern people have this feeling that if we can reach out and screw with other people not by talking to them but through underhanded technological means, we should do so. Which seems a basic social/philosophical problem that technology has no real capacity to address.

Re: Medium suspended our account and blocked access to all our published stories

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Post by otakucode » Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 8:28 PM UTC

type0 wrote: post #191

forgotmypw wrote: post #4

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I rarely click medium.com links, or any of their associated domains, hackernoon.com, etc. The website sucks . It's crippled without JS, and squirmy and laggy when JS is enabled. Either way, it's very heavy on the network pipe. Medium is in business of driving traffic, which means the content is likely to be mediocre. It's content that is looking for an audience, as my comment's sibling states. Which means that it is…

> Medium is in business of driving traffic... It always puzzled me how did they manage to get the amount of visitors they get? Is it just overabundance of marketing type people among Medium users that would spam their blogs to all corners of the Web?

I wrote comments on a few Medium articles months ago. Since then the email address tied to that account has been targetted by some really aggressive disinformation "news" garbage coming from Medium. I don't know what they're doing, but it is clearly being misused.

Re: Medium suspended our account and blocked access to all our published stories

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Post by isostatic » Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 8:31 PM UTC

1over137 wrote: post #53

GenYCubeJockey wrote: post #10

Happy Medium user here for several years. Even have been paid >$5 USD for work hosted there. Yes, I have skin in the game, and yes I'm positioning myself as a semi-advocate. Today's better lesson: LibraPay is too cheap to fork over money for effective legit marketing, so they're going the GoldiBlox route and trying to pick a fight to make themselves look good and get press. I mean they can totally respond to this pos…

$5 USD?? Is that a typo?

More than you get paid for HN posts I guess

Re: Medium suspended our account and blocked access to all our published stories

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Post by user5994461 » Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 8:34 PM UTC

ken wrote: post #243

user5994461 wrote: post #184

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56 cts until one of your article gets published on HN and you are billed for a TB of data transfer.

It was on top of HN last year. I paid 60 cents that month. The AWS CDN is really cheap, and 1 TB is a truly massive amount. Remember, this is static content, not megabytes of useless JS dependencies. In any event, it's easy to set a budget in AWS. I'll add one now, just to be safe.

My blog was on top of HN multiple times in the last years. I had an article that reached past a TB by itself.

It's not the javascript but the medias that are expensive. Pictures, drawings, schemas. God forbids if you have a gif or a video.

Re: Medium suspended our account and blocked access to all our published stories

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Post by erquhart » Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 4:47 PM UTC

bmc7505 wrote: post #217

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Netlify CMS solved the problem you described. https://www.netlifycms.org/

In theory, is there any reason why this couldn't support git-based comments as well? Maybe through a PR-style interface?

There's a tool called staticman - it doesn't integrate with Netlify CMS (yet), but it's a great git-based comments solution: https://staticman.net/

Re: Medium suspended our account and blocked access to all our published stories

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Post by sgtmas2006 » Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 7:09 PM UTC

rocqua wrote: post #168

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Reddit is not considered "Anything goes" by any stretch of the imagination. Reddit hasn't been the place for freedom for over half a decade now. Nor 4chan, or twitter. All of these sites are extremely heavily moderated, which is understandable, but saying that they are "anything goes" is false by any stretch of the imagination. Honestly before last year, Discord was the place to be, no matter what your topic was. One…

Is 4chan truly heavily moderated? I've never really used it, but it certainly has a reputation of anything goes.

Yes, it is. It's heavily moderated and surveilled.

Re: Medium suspended our account and blocked access to all our published stories

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Post by surge » Wed, Mar 28, 2018, 5:48 PM UTC

themusicgod1 wrote: post #149

djflutt3rshy wrote: post #101

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If more speech was the remedy to hate speech, then we would expect platforms with the most speech and least censorship would have the least hate. But compare well moderated social discussion sites like MetaFilter, HN, Fark to "anything goes" places like Twitter, 4chan, Reddit, etc. and the opposite is true.

You're presupposing here that "hate speech" is what needs remedying. You already have a conclusion you want the rest of us to reach about what we should be saying. More speech is not a remedy to 'hate speech', but it is an alternative to physical conflict . Some conflicts have been going on for thousands of years and you should not expect that they will be over within a brief period. Hatred runs deep and if you repre…

Free speech is a pressure release valve for society. Otherwise, people just keep quiet until they explode, many times in a mob because they feel no one is listening or they're being suppressed, or ignored by media, politicians, etc. For example, it is far better someone goes and complains about immigrants online and vent frustrations, even if half of what they say is racist or unjustified, because they at least are venting frustration non-violently and maybe, just maybe some of their concerns or points or personal experiences are legitimate and need to be addressed even if it's not with the solution they're suggesting. If nothing else, you know that person exists, and they're on your radar if they start expressing violent intentions.

Also, the answer isn't to suppress speech so it goes and hides under the surface, it doesn't go away and the people exposed to it never hear the counter points. The communities you talk about, like reddit, hate speech gets downvoted, it gets counter argued. Bring dumb hateful ignorant views into the light, so they can be addressed, if not for the purpose of convincing the OP (which is often futile), convincing anyone who might be on the fence or sympathetic at least partially to some of their points can understand why its wrong. The problem is when boards or sub-reddits become insular so never face opposing views, on either side, going back into bubbles or group think does not lead to moderate opinions and compromises, just like proving someone wrong can sometimes just cause them to double down on their opinion.