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Statement by FTC Regarding Reported Concerns about Facebook Privacy Practices

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Re: Statement by FTC Regarding Reported Concerns about Facebook Privacy Practices

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are you talking about, during the equifax breach equifax lost 1/3rd of its value

...and then went back up after everybody realized nothing was going to happen. including last week's drop, it's sitting at 80% of its pre-breach price.

So it's down 20% not 33%? That's still a big drop and not a great recovery.

Re: Statement by FTC Regarding Reported Concerns about Facebook Privacy Practices

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post #3

Remember the delete Uber campaign, the Equifax breach, the WFC accounts, the Bank of America suits, the Intel chip vulnerability? The market doesn't. The market has a short memory, and FB is not going anywhere. However, there may be some welcomed changes in data abuse. With that said, I think the stock is a bargain today.

Uber has fucked up but it's incomparable with this. The main difference is that FB fucked over the world for the next decade or so maybe more. The problem with Equifax is that I can't do anything to retaliate against the company.

Good point. Uber tried to fix things by a shake up (but I still don't use Uber). Equifax, I would force to pull my data if I could.

Facebook, this kind of stuff is inherent in their business model. Our data is the only obvious thing they can turn into money.

Re: Statement by FTC Regarding Reported Concerns about Facebook Privacy Practices

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post #3

Remember the delete Uber campaign, the Equifax breach, the WFC accounts, the Bank of America suits, the Intel chip vulnerability? The market doesn't. The market has a short memory, and FB is not going anywhere. However, there may be some welcomed changes in data abuse. With that said, I think the stock is a bargain today.

It's worth remembering what happened to Microsoft after it was hit with anti-trust action: https://www.seattletimes.com/business/microsoft/long-antitru...

The stock was literally dead money for decades and the ramifications are clear. The recent selling pressure is driven to an extent by memories of Microsoft and the financial impact. The stock is in no meaningful sense a bargain.

Re: Statement by FTC Regarding Reported Concerns about Facebook Privacy Practices

#24
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are you talking about, during the equifax breach equifax lost 1/3rd of its value

...and then went back up after everybody realized nothing was going to happen. including last week's drop, it's sitting at 80% of its pre-breach price.

> ...and then went back up after everybody realized nothing was going to happen. including last week's drop, it's sitting at 80% of its pre-breach price.

A sustained 20% drop in market share for a very large, very established company that has fairly few competitors, substantial network effects, and a high barrier to entry. That's a significant drop. It didn't wipe out the company, no, but it's a far cry from saying that "the market doesn't remember" - in this case, the market very clearly did remember.

Re: Statement by FTC Regarding Reported Concerns about Facebook Privacy Practices

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post #3

Remember the delete Uber campaign, the Equifax breach, the WFC accounts, the Bank of America suits, the Intel chip vulnerability? The market doesn't. The market has a short memory, and FB is not going anywhere. However, there may be some welcomed changes in data abuse. With that said, I think the stock is a bargain today.

I deleted Uber during that campaign and so did at least a dozen people that I know. I don't know the exact numbers, but I think Lyft's market share roughly doubled within several months.

How did "the market" not notice?

Re: Statement by FTC Regarding Reported Concerns about Facebook Privacy Practices

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post #16
post #3

Remember the delete Uber campaign, the Equifax breach, the WFC accounts, the Bank of America suits, the Intel chip vulnerability? The market doesn't. The market has a short memory, and FB is not going anywhere. However, there may be some welcomed changes in data abuse. With that said, I think the stock is a bargain today.

We will see, not unlikely that a split off of Instagram and/or WhatsApp is being put on the table. Who knows. It didn't happen with Microsoft back in the day, so I'm not sure such drastic measure would be seriously entertained.

From a market perspective, a split might make FB stock even more attractive. While I'm sure FB can leverage IG data quite effectively by mixing it in with the FB (product) data, I bet investors would salivate at the potential of investing in IG directly. Investing in FB now might result in pre-"IPO" prices for IG.

It might be the case that the sum is greater than the parts, but I don't know if the market would respond to a split from a purely rational stance, at least initially.

Re: Statement by FTC Regarding Reported Concerns about Facebook Privacy Practices

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post #3

Remember the delete Uber campaign, the Equifax breach, the WFC accounts, the Bank of America suits, the Intel chip vulnerability? The market doesn't. The market has a short memory, and FB is not going anywhere. However, there may be some welcomed changes in data abuse. With that said, I think the stock is a bargain today.

The short memory is a global things. It's the same with bad movies, lying politician and crazy ex gf/bf. You can get away with a pretty much anything as long as it's legal, not a big symbol, or that you have money to bypass the legal issue: the public won't hold you responsible for long. Here it's even worst, because it's also coupled with a total lack of interest. People mostly don't care about co-creating a society…

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Re: Statement by FTC Regarding Reported Concerns about Facebook Privacy Practices

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post #2

And the ironic cherry on top is the line right under the report “Like the FTC on Facebook.” It this a farce?

How exactly is that irony?

It's ironic because it provides a subversion of expectations: the FTC is releasing a statement in which they are trying to demonstrate some sort of power and authority over Facebook, but at the same time using one of Facebook's product, thereby undermining (in a very minor way) their own statement. It's not deeply ironic, but it's definitely an example of irony.

Source: My partner wrote his doctoral dissertation on irony, so I happen to have picked up an appreciation for the subject.

Re: Statement by FTC Regarding Reported Concerns about Facebook Privacy Practices

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Was with you up to that last sentence. On what do you base your valuation exactly?

> On what do you base your valuation exactly Is it even possible to come up with an answer for this?

When somebody claims that a stock is a "bargain" it's not unreasonable to expect to base that on something more concrete than just a gut feeling.

Re: Statement by FTC Regarding Reported Concerns about Facebook Privacy Practices

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post #3

Remember the delete Uber campaign, the Equifax breach, the WFC accounts, the Bank of America suits, the Intel chip vulnerability? The market doesn't. The market has a short memory, and FB is not going anywhere. However, there may be some welcomed changes in data abuse. With that said, I think the stock is a bargain today.

Deletes Facebook angrily, opens Instagram five minutes later.
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