I am worried that questionable semi-private German entity can block me (e.g. 30 days ban) on facebook at will. I am an US citizen and don't live in Germany. This is outrageous.
Zuckerberg Takes Steps to Calm Facebook Employees
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#232Earlier quoted context omitted.
Anecdotally I've heard of interns getting fired for just looking at profiles (that they aren't actual friends with) even around 5 years ago. So at least they take it somewhat seriously.
i interned at fb a few years ago. any engineer, intern or not, can access production data. day one you set up an instance of fb on your dev server that you can mess around with, and its connected straight to the prod db. you're able to view anything you want, but they're very adamant that they monitor what you look at.
I can't believe what I am reading. Why is that? Why use customer data for dev purposes. Why not work on some mock data?
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#233Can someone explain to me why the Cambridge Analytica story is making people so much angrier than the later revelation that Facebook was scraping call+text info? That seems to be the larger problem to me. Somewhere at Facebook there is a team of people who wrote software to scrape, store and analyze the personal call+text data that users didn't explicitly mean to give to Facebook. The data that Cambridge Analytica at…
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#234Wow, some people/families are way too media-sensitive. It's just hypocrisy. Facebook is fundamentally the same company as it was last week, last year and 5 years ago. Everyone knew this, especially Facebook employees.
Facebook today is mostly made up of two kinds of employees; money-hungry sociopaths and hypocrites.
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Or recall the HP leaks.
> the HP leaks The HP leak and spying scandal was so convoluted and left so many loose ends that I question its pedagogical utility. "On September 5, 2006, Newsweek revealed that Hewlett-Packard's general counsel, at the behest of HP chairwoman Patricia Dunn, had contracted a team of independent security experts to investigate board members and several journalists in order to identify the source of an information lea…
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#236Zuckerberg should resign at this moment. Facebook needs new leadership if it wants to change the way it has been operating.
Nah. In a week all of this will be forgotten (do you still remember the helicopter in the river, and the bridge that collapsed?). You and me and a few more people will remember, but we all already know that everything that is posted privately on Facebook will be leaked sooner or later. I even expect to see a few angry post from people that decided to delete their account now, and when they tried to undelete the accou…
That was five years ago.
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> Another ex-FB employee here. I can't believe this is even a thing people are wondering about. Of course not the average employee can't access user data, it's an immediate firing offense. Ironically, you're undermining your own point. The fact that they would be fired afterwards in no way contradicts the notion that they could access such data, and in fact suggests they can (hence the firing policy).
Yet another ex-FB here. When I was there I think it was possible for engineers to access pretty much anything programmatically, although the vast majority never have any reason to go near the systems that would allow them to do so. During onboarding we were basically told “If you look at any data that’s not yours, assume you will be fired”. Everything is logged, so if you might have looked at anything you shouldn’t h…
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#238Earlier quoted context omitted.
Regarding your question about a dev setting up a test server and accessing live data, that hole has been closed for years. There is some data that an average employee just cannot get to. For some data a dev can access it but the pattern of access and amount of data accessed will be audited and anomalies will raise an alarm. As for why no one is giving you a clear answer it is because there is no reason for anyone to…
> As for why no one is giving you a clear answer it is because there is no reason for anyone to tell some random person deep details about security policy and procedure. Where did I ask for "deep details about security policy and procedure"? > Want to know more? Too bad. No, but thanks. > There is some data that an average employee just cannot get to. "Some data" means nothing. I'm sure this is true in many, many com…
At the end of the day, the data is there - they have it. Possession is arguably MORE than 9/10 of the law in this situation. They can access it whenever they want -- trivially if they are rogue or have no concern for keeping their job. but this is true of just about any huge company that employs a lot of people-- but they're not going to say they can. Why would they?
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#239The answer, for most of us is an emphatic 'yes'
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#240Earlier quoted context omitted.
> With so much to lose and so little to gain internal leaks of this sort are extremely rare I recently downloaded my Facebook archive [1]. If it were legal, I would certainly pay thousands if not tens of thousands of dollars for certain peoples' archives. I can think of several practical contexts in which an unethical actor would find it profitable to pay a Facebook employee a million dollars for someone's Facebook a…
I would certainly pay thousands if not tens of thousands of dollars for certain peoples' archives Really? For what purpose?