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So, this happened and we have confirmed about the dark patterns whether consented or not. What are good alternatives in this "Network effect" age? Facebook - I hardly use anymore. It exists undeleted because it serves as a kind of Social ID. I don't have the App installed anywhere, neither do I access it from my regular browser. The thing I'm struggling to get alternative for is WhatsApp. How could I talk to all my c…
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> The phone/call permissions, especially for Android, were needed for any app that wants to suspend when a call comes in. No they weren't
You need/needed READ_PHONE_STATE if you wanted to suspend your app data/saving and allow calls to be accepted you did. For instance you are playing a game and a call comes in, you needed them to allow that and to possibly not crash your game and save your data as well as for some analytics/social network integration. Also if you allowed os level music to be played over game audio, you need that to handle music and ap…
What pisses me off is that while I can choose what information I share, I haven't given other people nor Facebook permission to read phone call logs that involve me.
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It is not "better than nothing," it is the minimum that is technically and legally required. The UI is intentionally deceptive. The text is deceptive. The big text says "Text anyone in your phone," which sounds great, but doesn't actually say anything about data sharing. The small low contrast text, describes what they're doing. They know that by putting it small and grey, most people wont read it. The buttons are de…
> People don't read the pages. People don't read the user agreements. Then maybe "people" shouldn't act completely outraged when they find out that their call history was uploaded?
The best description I recently heard of these types push questions is "exploiting a bug in human behavior. And when the bug is in the brain, there is no patch."
We should be thankful that they haven't cross shared the WhatsApp contact info - they probably have a similar stream of information on that side.
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It is not "better than nothing," it is the minimum that is technically and legally required. The UI is intentionally deceptive. The text is deceptive. The big text says "Text anyone in your phone," which sounds great, but doesn't actually say anything about data sharing. The small low contrast text, describes what they're doing. They know that by putting it small and grey, most people wont read it. The buttons are de…
it appears to be a result of extensive A/B/C ... XY testing. In a way, the users themselves have chosen it.
This permission screen is a push poll.[0]
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iOS is pretty good. The onus for dealing with rejected permissions (in many cases) is put onto the app developer. For example, if you make a photo editing app, you need to request access to the user's photo gallery at runtime of the app. If they refuse, it's fully expected that your app will continue to work with reduced functionality. IIRC you will have trouble getting approved for the app store if your app breaks a…
But requesting permissions as they're needed is how it works on Android too, since M (late 2015).
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It seems like it should be an obvious given that just installing an FB app on your phone shouldn't hand FB a record of all your phone calls and text messages. Which is what appears to have happened on Android and nowhere else. The sensible question really is 'wtf is wrong with Android' not 'who and how is somehow managing to do this better'. Nobody asks about cars that don't come with a face stabbing device nor write…
> It seems like it should be an obvious given that just installing an FB app on your phone shouldn't hand FB a record of all your phone calls and text messages. Has it been established anywhere that this was not the case (i.e. that just installing the app uploaded all calls and text messages)?
So, this happened and we have confirmed about the dark patterns whether consented or not. What are good alternatives in this "Network effect" age? Facebook - I hardly use anymore. It exists undeleted because it serves as a kind of Social ID. I don't have the App installed anywhere, neither do I access it from my regular browser. The thing I'm struggling to get alternative for is WhatsApp. How could I talk to all my c…
Also: Facebook works on every platform, while at Signal they have a strange cellphone fetish. I would love to use Signal, but I have to use Telegram. The Telegram desktop app is awesome, and it doesn't need a cellphone.