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Re: IRS reminds taxpayers to report virtual currency transactions

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post #89

A tax CPA I used in the past advised me with (hundreds of) short term equity trades to just present the before and after figures, since that represented the true income. They explained that in their experience, that was satisfactory to the IRS. It is unrealistic to expect people making frequent trades to carefully document every trade (unless perhaps that is their profession). It's even worse for cryptocurrencies, si…

Why is it unreasonable? Your brokerage should be tracking your entry and exit for each trade and sending you a comprehensive 1099-B come tax time.

If your cryptocurrency brokerage isn't doing that for you, move your money elsewhere. If you can't find a brokerage that does that for you, maybe you should start wondering what other important controls are missing from your brokerage. Just saying.

Re: IRS reminds taxpayers to report virtual currency transactions

#113
post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but do you really want your cryptocurrency gains to be taxed as ordinary income?

I personally don't care since I attempted HFT, my holding times were 10-30us.

Is there a time threshold?

Re: IRS reminds taxpayers to report virtual currency transactions

#114
post #89

A tax CPA I used in the past advised me with (hundreds of) short term equity trades to just present the before and after figures, since that represented the true income. They explained that in their experience, that was satisfactory to the IRS. It is unrealistic to expect people making frequent trades to carefully document every trade (unless perhaps that is their profession). It's even worse for cryptocurrencies, si…

Why is it unreasonable? Your brokerage should be tracking your entry and exit for each trade and sending you a comprehensive 1099-B come tax time. If your cryptocurrency brokerage isn't doing that for you, move your money elsewhere. If you can't find a brokerage that does that for you, maybe you should start wondering what other important controls are missing from your brokerage. Just saying.

He's talking crypto, not stocks. A brokerage company operating outside of the US has zero reason to supply you with any specific US tax docs.

Re: IRS reminds taxpayers to report virtual currency transactions

#116
post #62

The problem, if one want to trade crypto currencies, is that you have to record every transaction. Then one has to figure out if the coins you have traded have been held for over a year and thus treated at the long term capital gains tax rate as opposed to the short term rate. Then, I believe with the new tax bill, one has to, going forward, sell the oldest coins first (if they are going to be treated like stocks). T…

> if one want to trade crypto currencies, is that you have to record every transaction This is true for all capital assets. With cryptocurrencies, the data are all public. There may be room for a service which, given a set of wallets, produces a sample tax transcript.

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Re: IRS reminds taxpayers to report virtual currency transactions

#117

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This is bad for everyone. Holy crap do we need reform.

What reforms do you propose? It seems perfectly reasonable to me that income is income regardless of whether it is dollars or magic beans and that gains on investments are taxed largely without regard for the form of the investment.

I'd expect that converting from 1 cryptocurrency to another doesn't count as a gain until it's turned back into a country issued currency. They're basically the same unusable[1] asset under a different umbrella.

[1]: if we're pragmatic about it, cryptocoins can't be used for much on their own

Re: IRS reminds taxpayers to report virtual currency transactions

#118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is it unreasonable? Your brokerage should be tracking your entry and exit for each trade and sending you a comprehensive 1099-B come tax time. If your cryptocurrency brokerage isn't doing that for you, move your money elsewhere. If you can't find a brokerage that does that for you, maybe you should start wondering what other important controls are missing from your brokerage. Just saying.

He's talking crypto, not stocks. A brokerage company operating outside of the US has zero reason to supply you with any specific US tax docs.

Customer service is a selling point.

Re: IRS reminds taxpayers to report virtual currency transactions

#119
post #89

A tax CPA I used in the past advised me with (hundreds of) short term equity trades to just present the before and after figures, since that represented the true income. They explained that in their experience, that was satisfactory to the IRS. It is unrealistic to expect people making frequent trades to carefully document every trade (unless perhaps that is their profession). It's even worse for cryptocurrencies, si…

Why is it unreasonable? Your brokerage should be tracking your entry and exit for each trade and sending you a comprehensive 1099-B come tax time. If your cryptocurrency brokerage isn't doing that for you, move your money elsewhere. If you can't find a brokerage that does that for you, maybe you should start wondering what other important controls are missing from your brokerage. Just saying.

It's not possible for them to know in many cases so you really do need to keep track on your own. This is a problem for stock brokerages too when you've funded your account by transferring assets from another brokerage.
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