Is Facebook Really Scarier Than Google?

Post by stordoff » Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 2:13 PM UTC

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #132

koolba wrote: post #58

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> Very few ISPs can track you no matter where you physically go, as your mobile, home, and work ISPs are likely all different. There's a lot of consolidation happening in that space. Verizon offers FiOS and phone service. Comcast is getting into the mobile game. That aside, any device by itself is enough to get a picture of the user using only tracing IP addresses (i.e. DNS lookups and outbound requests). They don't…

Google also has Fiber and Fi, but in reality, I think the likelihood any given user has land and mobile access through the same company is relatively low, and you usually have the option to switch at least one of them. AT&T is probably the biggest player in succeeding at being the ISP for you everywhere though.

Post by libdjml » Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 2:23 PM UTC

jerheinze wrote: post #175

libdjml wrote: post #172

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If we’re talking about privacy of tor vs VPN, I want my entire network protected at the gateway, so not sure how the tor network keeps up with streaming video etc? I wasn’t aware of the attack surface reduction, I’ll take a look at that, thanks for the recommendation. My ground truth for this is usually to ask full-time exploit dev friends which is a harder target, although that’s probably flawed in that if you’re ta…

> I want my entire network protected at the gateway, so not sure how the tor network keeps up with streaming video etc? With Qubes you can have a Whonix-ws VM have all its traffic go through Tor, and have another VM with all its traffic through some VPN to use with streaming.

Post by zombieprocesses » Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 2:43 PM UTC

Ivoirians wrote: post #70

Disclaimer: I work for Google and these views are only my opinion, etc. From my perspective, Google's goals are aligned with improving the world by offering information services. Search, Gmail, Maps, Translate, basically all of the Other Bets, etc.--it's easy to imagine that the people behind them are more concerned with impact on the world than on generating profit or consolidating Google's power. To me, Facebook ha…

Post by zombieprocesses » Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 2:50 PM UTC

vasilipupkin wrote: post #279

I'm really confused by the whole anti Facebook thing. Agree they messed up on privacy, but calling them evil, useless, etc seems over the top. I like FB and find it useful and don't care if somebody has my public profile data, since its public already

Post by ignoramous » Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 3:37 PM UTC

drawkbox wrote: post #11

Your ISP tracking your every move is scarier than all of them after the ISP privacy bill passed. At least Facebook and Google give you something for it and you can route around them if you desire. No routing around ISPs unless you use a VPN but even then they are blocking those. Broadband/cable/telcos capture everything you do and can now sell that information and do[1]. That bill was the pre-cursor to removing net n…