Thoughts on Embracing the Social Internet Over Social Media
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#2I agree, except how do you control the audience of a website, like keeping friends separate from professional contacts?
What's the best way to do this, a password you give to people? I don't like the idea of forcing people to give up their identity.
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#3I agree, except how do you control the audience of a website, like keeping friends separate from professional contacts? What's the best way to do this, a password you give to people? I don't like the idea of forcing people to give up their identity.
Two websites?
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#4I agree, except how do you control the audience of a website, like keeping friends separate from professional contacts? What's the best way to do this, a password you give to people? I don't like the idea of forcing people to give up their identity.
User accounts. Add a question to the user account registration page only your friends would know the answer to. ;-)
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#5Welcome to how the internet used to be. It's amazing that people's memories are so short on this subject, if you have enough smart people pushing corporate experience X or Y then everyone assumes that's the only option.
The first step is rejecting the aggressive attempts at corporations to ensure you live in their "garden" as much as possible. It's bizarre that people are doing gymnastics about how if you just restrict yourself to this certain 3% of the food in that garden everything will be ok.
How about setting out on your own instead? How about starting from: "I don't need youtube, I don't need amazon, I don't need google analytics" and figuring it out?
That's what everyone used to do.
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#6I agree, except how do you control the audience of a website, like keeping friends separate from professional contacts? What's the best way to do this, a password you give to people? I don't like the idea of forcing people to give up their identity.
I have been maintaining a nextcloud instance for some time (migrated from owncloud).
It initially was for my personal usage, but over time I created accounts for relatives, friends, university and work colleagues (free Dropbox !!).
I’d have never thought it’s so customizable: in the store there is an app for xmpp chat with a fb-like ui (very popular amongst my younger friends) and the social aspect can be managed by Circles [https://apps.nextcloud.com/apps/circles], control over visibility and permissions is included.
Of course, it does not scale to millions of users, but that’s the point. The approach is a middle ground between “delete social media” and “own your own domain”.
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#7Welcome to how the internet used to be. It's amazing that people's memories are so short on this subject, if you have enough smart people pushing corporate experience X or Y then everyone assumes that's the only option. The first step is rejecting the aggressive attempts at corporations to ensure you live in their "garden" as much as possible. It's bizarre that people are doing gymnastics about how if you just restri…
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#8I, personally, don’t see why it’s necessary to coddle those who are unable to remember a time before garbage “social media” sites, by adopting the term “social internet.”
It’s just The Internet.
None of these sites or apps have done anything new, with the technology we have. It’s the same shit that existed in 1999, but scaled up to more bandwidth, faster client-side hardware, and warehouses full of servers.
Facebook really isn’t an improvement on AOL. Snapchat is just a means of forcing people to delete the lewd emails you’d like to send. Twitter is SMS text messaging, plus a mailing list web UI.
Since maybe 2004, people got sold on the idea of turning their address book into a home page, exposing their contact list as content. But it wasn’t anything new or incredible, it was just user behavior that changed.
Only now, when everyone is desperate for a political scapegoat, are we claiming that it was used to rig elections. But the only difference between the time before “social media” up until now, is that when we just had 900 page paper phone books, the phone book never drew lines to graph connections between phone numbers.
We have smart phones now, and smart phones have been the real game changer. In 1999, an ad campaign would have conflated these devices as supercomputers banned by export treaties, pointing to Game Boys getting used as missile guidance computers or military grade cryptographic hardware. But again, it’s just scaled up network bandwidth and more computing power packed into smaller packages. The real game changing aspect of smart phones is the cameras, hot microphones and uniquely identifiable, trackable radio tags we’ve been brainwashed into carrying.
Insisting on calling it a “social internet” simply treats people like children.
Platform monopolies are not The Internet. The Internet does not require a prefix or qualifier. It’s not the “social” internet.
It’s just The Internet.
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#9This is a penetrating analysis and I completely agree with its values.
In practise, however, it is a very quixotic pursuit to try to pull the social world away from SV companies with network effect lock-in. The only way to succeed just may lie revolve in anti-social marketing behaviour.
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#10Welcome to how the internet used to be. It's amazing that people's memories are so short on this subject, if you have enough smart people pushing corporate experience X or Y then everyone assumes that's the only option. The first step is rejecting the aggressive attempts at corporations to ensure you live in their "garden" as much as possible. It's bizarre that people are doing gymnastics about how if you just restri…
I recently created a web site.
Just black text on white background.
I write about stuff I find interesting. So far a few unfinished pages.
I don't even think it is indexed yet.
It is my rebellion against pixel perfect audience building technical blogging and what not.
It feels good.
I might add links to other similar pages at some point.
Anyone else makes old fashioned web sites?