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Re: Ask HN: What percentage of your users are using social login?

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I'm a cofounder at CollegeAI.com. Our users can sign up via Facebook, Google or Email. Here are our stats: Google: 58% Email: 23% Facebook: 19% Most of our users are around 18yo.

Do you have stats on how many sign up with Gmail (or Google mail account) - but as "email"?

59% use a gmail when they sign up with email. Many of the users on our platform will use their school emails, so this might not be representative of another sites.

Re: Ask HN: What percentage of your users are using social login?

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All my side projects and any projects I control use exclusively social login. Here's why. 1. Its way easier on me. I don't have to worry about password resets or users hacking an account in the site. OAuth and be done. 2. I don't have to deal with any outgoing or incoming emails and complaints dealing with login. 3. I don't have to worry about scammers, since google/facebook pretty much require phone, a non fake emai…

I am unlikely to use your site if it requires me to use a Google or Facebook login. Those companies already have too much power to fuck my life up, I have no interest in giving them any more.

Re: Ask HN: What percentage of your users are using social login?

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For my little side project I’m using email only. Tangentially related, I quite like Medium’s workflow where you don’t need to enter passwords anymore. You just enter your address, they send a login email, you click the link in your email, and it redirects you to Medium, logged in.

You don't need to enter passwords because you are stuck in a password reset groundhog day scenario. You want to login to Medium yet you need to access your emails first, it makes very little sense actually.

> it makes very little sense actually

It's actually one of the safest ways to offer email authentication.

Re: Ask HN: What percentage of your users are using social login?

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All my side projects and any projects I control use exclusively social login. Here's why. 1. Its way easier on me. I don't have to worry about password resets or users hacking an account in the site. OAuth and be done. 2. I don't have to deal with any outgoing or incoming emails and complaints dealing with login. 3. I don't have to worry about scammers, since google/facebook pretty much require phone, a non fake emai…

I am unlikely to use your site if it requires me to use a Google or Facebook login. Those companies already have too much power to fuck my life up, I have no interest in giving them any more.

Would a different social login provider be more acceptable? Github for instance? Something or someone that isn't as interested in using your data

Re: Ask HN: What percentage of your users are using social login?

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For my little side project I’m using email only. Tangentially related, I quite like Medium’s workflow where you don’t need to enter passwords anymore. You just enter your address, they send a login email, you click the link in your email, and it redirects you to Medium, logged in.

> Tangentially related, I quite like Medium’s workflow where you don’t need to enter passwords anymore. You just enter your address, they send a login email, you click the link in your email, and it redirects you to Medium, logged in. That's absolutely crazy, I've always thought it didn't make any sense. Browsers have autofill, and even if you don't want to use it it takes a lot less time to type your password than t…

Think about it from the perspective of the site owner. Much safer to offer access this way, and easier, than having to manage and store and secure passwords. Much safer for users.

Re: Ask HN: What percentage of your users are using social login?

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I am unlikely to use your site if it requires me to use a Google or Facebook login. Those companies already have too much power to fuck my life up, I have no interest in giving them any more.

Would a different social login provider be more acceptable? Github for instance? Something or someone that isn't as interested in using your data

Github maybe... I've been more hesitant to use them, as they control a significant portion of open source project's infrastructure, and could generally make a lot of headaches for me. If you don't have a simple email-based signup I'm going to be hesitant to use your site.

Re: Ask HN: What percentage of your users are using social login?

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Good point, I mean user name and password, with an initial verification email. If you use the email option, you can't get into the app without first clicking a verification link in an email. That caused a few headaches after launch when my transactional mail service didn't have a great delivery rate. Still the right thing to do from a security perspective. I do have a big "preview" option on the login page for anyone…

What are you using to get a good delivery on transactional main?

Nothing high tech. Started out monitoring failed deliveries and sent out verification requests manually to get over the first week or two. I noticed it was failing consistently on Microsoft domains, so contacted the provider and they reassigned an IP which improved things. Other than that, I have a really high open rate, but I'm not going to pretend I know much about the intricacies of building a domain's reputation. I'm using Mailgun btw. Can't really compare it to other services personally, but their support has been great especially given that my service isn't large enough yet to need more than the free tier.

Re: Ask HN: What percentage of your users are using social login?

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For a while I used it almost exclusively until I realized how much I was fucking my users over just because I was to lazy to properly implement a password system (still do not store them myself) besides the already huge power these corporations hold you make it very hard for users to delete their account with them by letting GlobalCorp™ hold their other accounts hostage.

Re: Ask HN: What percentage of your users are using social login?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>>[if they won’t use social login do they really like you enough? I like to think of my users as apostles] Sounds a bit scary is this some kind of cult as a service offering? It’s well known that a significant percentage of people won’t sign up with a social login. What is it about those lost users that appears to assign them less of a value in your business model? Quality of customer is definitely a consideration in…

How is it "well known that a significant percentage of people won't sign up with a social login" ?

It's hard to prove that something is 'well-known' but I thought it too, and the reported stats in this post seem to confirm it.
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