Why should a company have to delete accounts?
Protection of personal data. If you don't use an account anymore, you shouldn't have to be subject to the data leaks the site will suffer in the future.
Show HN: Tech Companies That Won't Delete Your Information
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#82mailgun
Any personal experience with them, in if that's the case what was it like?
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#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
One more thing: the Uber help page states that they "permanently delete your account", but also includes this sentence: "Please note that Uber may retain certain information after account deletion as required or permitted by law." Which makes me think that they're deactivating your account and basically keeping as much data as they can legally get away with. Since I doubt any of the other companies on your list are o…
I'm wondering what kind of information, because they are required to keep accounting records for some time. The only challenge is how to rank them based on ranking factors.
That covers the "required" part of their statement. But they also have the weasel phrase "as permitted", which is far more open ended. In much of the US, for example, the law does not expressly state what steps a provider has to do to "delete" your account. So implicitly, they're permitted to keep what data they like.
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#84Elsevier (Mendeley) TLDR: Claimed to have deleted everything on 2017-06-08, but they lied. 0. 2017-06-06: Mendeley email me "Paul, important changes to your Mendeley account ..." I log on and 'delete' my account. 1. 2017-06-07: Mendeley me "We have deleted your Mendeley profile and data, to delete your full Elsevier account, please email usinfo@elsevier.com" 2. 2017-06-07: I reply to Elsevier "Please do that for me n…
You're still on the email list - that doesn't mean your account data is still there, it means the marketing team is probably silo'd and doesn't clean their lists.
>6. 2017-06-15: Mendeley email me "Paul, important changes to your Mendeley account" ...
That doesn't look like it's from the marketing team - looks just like the original email they sent before I closed my account.
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#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, but only EU companies have to comply, and those who by extension is subject to the same rules by treaty, mainly the EEA and EFTA as well.
The GDPR applies to the data of anyone using a service while in the EU, not just to companies that are based in the EU.
While technically true, if the EU has no jurisdiction over you or your business, it's difficult for them to force compliance.
Another example of this is sales tax in the US. Several states have laws that tell the seller to collect and remit sales tax on any sales to residents within the state. But for sellers that have no physical presence in that state, the state has no ability to force them to actually do so (or to force them to open up their books and prove one way or the other).
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#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
You're still on the email list - that doesn't mean your account data is still there, it means the marketing team is probably silo'd and doesn't clean their lists.
>6. 2017-06-15: Mendeley email me "Paul, important changes to your Mendeley account" ... That doesn't look like it's from the marketing team - looks just like the original email they sent before I closed my account.
Yeah, they probably send those as drip emails when there are global changes to policy, and to get you to open the email and re-engage with their system. I wouldn't be surprised if the support team doesn't engage with the email team at all, or rarely. It's not usually a huge priority, in my experience.
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#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
>6. 2017-06-15: Mendeley email me "Paul, important changes to your Mendeley account" ... That doesn't look like it's from the marketing team - looks just like the original email they sent before I closed my account.
Yeah, they probably send those as drip emails when there are global changes to policy, and to get you to open the email and re-engage with their system. I wouldn't be surprised if the support team doesn't engage with the email team at all, or rarely. It's not usually a huge priority, in my experience.
With respect, I think that you're just writing what you suppose they did with out bothering to read what I've written because it's too long for you.
I didn't write it out carefully for you. I wrote it for the OP.
Re: Show HN: Tech Companies That Won't Delete Your Information
#88Nice! Some thoughts:
- I’d rank them on a combination of size and score. - perhaps a link to relevant delete / info page - automatic vs manual (ie do you need to ask support) - whether they have precise info on which information is deleted, and what is kept - a column for claimed gdpr compliance
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#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
The GDPR applies to the data of anyone using a service while in the EU, not just to companies that are based in the EU.
While technically true, if the EU has no jurisdiction over you or your business, it's difficult for them to force compliance. Another example of this is sales tax in the US. Several states have laws that tell the seller to collect and remit sales tax on any sales to residents within the state. But for sellers that have no physical presence in that state, the state has no ability to force them to actually do so (or to…
For most large tech companies EU is their biggest or second biggest market. The fines are large, so it will be in their interest to comply.
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#90I don't understand why were some of the tech added to the list. The title says "Tech Companies That Won't Delete Your Information
Services with the highest scores have the worst policies"
Tox is listed among them. But ToX does not need any information from you. You can create a random id without any of your personal information whatsoever, and share this id with your friends, who will also have a random id.
Tox is not a company.
A clarification is much needed.
In the communication lists it says that security wise is "Bad". Why?
In fact, it would be beneficial for all of us if these lists had some information on why were some of the stuff added to the list. Precisely why is Tox added to the list.
Similar to this discussion we can see that Retroshare is too listed. Again, why?
Please share some URL with reading material why are some of the companies and tech listed at all.