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Cambridge Analytica raided by UK data watchdog

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Re: Cambridge Analytica raided by UK data watchdog

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Post by pjc50 »

rdiddly wrote: post #3

Ah, this completes the triad for me. I had previously heard FB deny responsibility and Kogan deny responsibility. Hadn't yet heard CA deny responsibility until now. That's settled then. I guess nobody's at fault! Success has many fathers but failure is an orphan.

"The usual people tried to claim responsibility. First the IRA, then the PLO and the Gas Board. Even British Nuclear Fuels rushed out a statement to the effect that the situation was completely under control, that it was a one in a million chance, that there was hardly any radioactive leakage at all, and that the site of the explosion would make a nice location for a day out with the kids and a picnic, before finally having to admit that it wasn't actually anything to do with them at all."

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Re: Cambridge Analytica raided by UK data watchdog

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Post by Consultant32452 »

rdiddly wrote: post #3

Ah, this completes the triad for me. I had previously heard FB deny responsibility and Kogan deny responsibility. Hadn't yet heard CA deny responsibility until now. That's settled then. I guess nobody's at fault! Success has many fathers but failure is an orphan.

At fault for what exactly, Trump getting elected? I still don't understand what we know today that anyone sort of paying attention didn't expect a year ago, or even five years ago.

Re: Cambridge Analytica raided by UK data watchdog

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Post by lostlogin »

cs702 wrote: post #14

In the blink of an eye, it seems, we have gone from a world in which collecting, storing, and using personal data for financial gain was largely viewed as a harmless activity, to a world in which doing those same things will be increasingly controlled and regulated, scrutinized, criticized, investigated, fined, and ultimately, I suspect, criminalized.

It’s interesting how the collection of the same information by the likes of the five eyes is ok, yet for Facebook it isn’t.

Re: Cambridge Analytica raided by UK data watchdog

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Post by jaclaz »

djhworld wrote: post #8
rdiddly wrote: post #3

Ah, this completes the triad for me. I had previously heard FB deny responsibility and Kogan deny responsibility. Hadn't yet heard CA deny responsibility until now. That's settled then. I guess nobody's at fault! Success has many fathers but failure is an orphan.

I was just reading this article about Kogan https://www.theguardian.com/education/2018/mar/24/cambridge-... The article is a bit confusing for me, it suggests that Kogan initially went to the parent company of CA and asked for $500,000 for the data+modelling, and they refused? It's not entirely clear, but at some point some money must have changed hands for the work, the thing that surprises me the most is even with…

Thank you for the article, very interesting.

At first read I had the impression that Kogan was criticized on an "ethical" base, then re-reading it, I understood that they were only arguing on how to divide the loot.

If SCL actually had given 1 million, half to Kogan and 1/4 each to Kosinski and Stilwell, we wouldn't have the mails.

>The correspondence reveals the deep anxiety among university psychologists over the activities of Kogan, ...

Deep anxiety over the activities my sock, they wanted US$ 500,000 and were proposed only US$ 100,000 instead, and there started the disagreement ...

Re: Cambridge Analytica raided by UK data watchdog

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Post by bluesmonk »

cs702 wrote: post #14

In the blink of an eye, it seems, we have gone from a world in which collecting, storing, and using personal data for financial gain was largely viewed as a harmless activity, to a world in which doing those same things will be increasingly controlled and regulated, scrutinized, criticized, investigated, fined, and ultimately, I suspect, criminalized.

I just hope this does not backfire as new service models that require explicit consent (through ToS) from the user to allow monetizing user data in order to use such service.

Re: Cambridge Analytica raided by UK data watchdog

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Post by beagle3 »

lostlogin wrote: post #23
cs702 wrote: post #14

In the blink of an eye, it seems, we have gone from a world in which collecting, storing, and using personal data for financial gain was largely viewed as a harmless activity, to a world in which doing those same things will be increasingly controlled and regulated, scrutinized, criticized, investigated, fined, and ultimately, I suspect, criminalized.

It’s interesting how the collection of the same information by the likes of the five eyes is ok, yet for Facebook it isn’t.

It is interesting how it is ok for a country to jail people whose conduct it disapproves of, yet for any non-government entity it isn't. /s

Re: Cambridge Analytica raided by UK data watchdog

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Post by xr4ti »

lostlogin wrote: post #23
cs702 wrote: post #14

In the blink of an eye, it seems, we have gone from a world in which collecting, storing, and using personal data for financial gain was largely viewed as a harmless activity, to a world in which doing those same things will be increasingly controlled and regulated, scrutinized, criticized, investigated, fined, and ultimately, I suspect, criminalized.

It’s interesting how the collection of the same information by the likes of the five eyes is ok, yet for Facebook it isn’t.

Seems perfectly in line with restrictions on other dual use technologies, such as biological pathogens, nuclear fuels, etc.

Re: Cambridge Analytica raided by UK data watchdog

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Post by rsynnott »

gabipurcaru wrote: post #10
rdiddly wrote: post #3

Ah, this completes the triad for me. I had previously heard FB deny responsibility and Kogan deny responsibility. Hadn't yet heard CA deny responsibility until now. That's settled then. I guess nobody's at fault! Success has many fathers but failure is an orphan.

did Facebook deny responsibility?

A strange sort of non-denial denial.

Re: Cambridge Analytica raided by UK data watchdog

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Post by n4r9 »

krona wrote: post #26
pjc50 wrote: post #15

Relatedly, some more Brexit whistleblowing: https://twitter.com/MichaelLCrick/status/977601337889312768 and https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/brexit-outing_uk_5ab6...

Sorry, I failed to see the relevance, apropos Cambridge Analytica.

Cambridge Analytica conducted research for Leave.EU, one of the biggest pro-Brexit campaign groups, and are under investigation by the Electoral Commission for their role in the EU referendum.
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