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Re: Ask HN: What percentage of your users are using social login?

#11

Not a fan so not defending but I wouldn't classify Google as social login.

A more proper term might be "delegated authentication" but it's a mouthful so people don't use it unless they mean arbitrary Identity Providers.

* Biased as I work on the OpenID Connect and OAuth at Okta where we are an Identity Provider and support many of the social login options.

Re: Ask HN: What percentage of your users are using social login?

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I'm currently working on a project which has only social login (but allows you to choose between facebook and google) and this was a very deliberate move. For any given person on this planet, there is a higher chance that they use facebook or gmail over any other "service", so no need to offer support for 10 different social logins. Also, this is more about imposing a qualitative filter on the users who sign up. If t…

“If the earliest users you have don't like you enough to give you their social login details ” Perhaps I’m an anomaly, but if there is no regular email sign-up, I’m not using your product, period. There’s enough information floating around about me in databases all over the world, I don’t need them to be further connected and linked. To see the situation with FB/CA and then demand your users use their login is insult…

I agree with this because the scopes that the various apps "require" are usually way beyond what is actually necessary. At best, it's ugly information leakage. At worst, you spam my friends & colleagues to visit my farm.

* There's another aspect where if Google, Facebook, etc, etc shut down or freeze your account, you will lose access to the system.

Re: Ask HN: What percentage of your users are using social login?

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For my little side project I’m using email only. Tangentially related, I quite like Medium’s workflow where you don’t need to enter passwords anymore. You just enter your address, they send a login email, you click the link in your email, and it redirects you to Medium, logged in.

Interesting, I always assumed this would be too much hassle for users since after the first login, the browser (mobile or desktop) would remember the password.

Certainly seems like an optimum solution to typing a password on first login though (assuming the email is prompt).

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I'm currently working on a project which has only social login (but allows you to choose between facebook and google) and this was a very deliberate move. For any given person on this planet, there is a higher chance that they use facebook or gmail over any other "service", so no need to offer support for 10 different social logins. Also, this is more about imposing a qualitative filter on the users who sign up. If t…

“If the earliest users you have don't like you enough to give you their social login details ” Perhaps I’m an anomaly, but if there is no regular email sign-up, I’m not using your product, period. There’s enough information floating around about me in databases all over the world, I don’t need them to be further connected and linked. To see the situation with FB/CA and then demand your users use their login is insult…

Same here. The recent examples of people finding it difficult to delete Facebook because of social logins to accounts on other sites reinforces how social logins lock you into a service.

Re: Ask HN: What percentage of your users are using social login?

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I'm currently working on a project which has only social login (but allows you to choose between facebook and google) and this was a very deliberate move. For any given person on this planet, there is a higher chance that they use facebook or gmail over any other "service", so no need to offer support for 10 different social logins. Also, this is more about imposing a qualitative filter on the users who sign up. If t…

“If the earliest users you have don't like you enough to give you their social login details ” Perhaps I’m an anomaly, but if there is no regular email sign-up, I’m not using your product, period. There’s enough information floating around about me in databases all over the world, I don’t need them to be further connected and linked. To see the situation with FB/CA and then demand your users use their login is insult…

I built the log-in before the FB/CA situation and am yet to understand how it may change things. However, I personally think people will move on from this like nothing ever happened (which is sad)

Re: Ask HN: What percentage of your users are using social login?

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For my little side project I’m using email only. Tangentially related, I quite like Medium’s workflow where you don’t need to enter passwords anymore. You just enter your address, they send a login email, you click the link in your email, and it redirects you to Medium, logged in.

Interesting, I always assumed this would be too much hassle for users since after the first login, the browser (mobile or desktop) would remember the password. Certainly seems like an optimum solution to typing a password on first login though (assuming the email is prompt).

Couple of points, first of all the thing the browser can still remember is the auth token in a non-expiring cookie. As the majority of users will rarely if ever clear cookies or change browsers, this nullifies the password remembering feature.

Secondly, particularly on mobile, tapping through to email and hitting a link is probably faster and more convenient for most users than simply entering a password on the keyboard.

It's just a shame it's such a pain to write automated tests that go through the email login procedure compared to username/password ;-)

Re: Ask HN: What percentage of your users are using social login?

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I'm a cofounder at CollegeAI.com. Our users can sign up via Facebook, Google or Email. Here are our stats: Google: 58% Email: 23% Facebook: 19% Most of our users are around 18yo.

Do you have stats on how many sign up with Gmail (or Google mail account) - but as "email"?

Re: Ask HN: What percentage of your users are using social login?

#20
An interesting question but I caution you not to follow blindly in the path of what has worked for other products.

The conversion rate of social logins with _your customers_ is the ultimate metric to look at. They are trivial to implement, do some A/B testing with your product and follow the metrics.

A CRM product, for example, might see almost zero social signups compared to email. But an app for photo editing might see 90%. Know and serve your own customers before following others' metrics. And good luck :)

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