Deere Forestry and other manufactures have GPS coordinates of all major gear in Brazil. We don't need to use acoustics.
Listening for illegal logging chainsaws using TensorFlow
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#112Next step, mine the rainforrest with sound detecting landmines? Technical solutions to social problems - any examples where this worked?
Exactly. Not to mention that some other guy in this thread said that in Brazil now all forestry equipment is sold with GPS tracking, so there's literally zero need for such a device regardless. If they want people to stop chopping down forests they need to provide them with a differnt, viable source of income. If I was living in deep poverty and there was a forest near me I'd chop it down, no question about it.
This money should be invested into fusion or solar research - if energy is cheap- somebody will find a vay to convert it into fast vat grown rainforrest- and voila-> Unemployed drunks protesting before the automatic growthlab and sawmill.
Its very hard to prevent behaviour thats economical. Its way easier to subvert the economics behind that.
If you want to save nature- compress agriculture into vats. If you want to compress agriculture into vats and buildings, you need cheap energy.
Solving at source, instead of gimick-gasms.
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#113I love these guys! I helped advise them on their crowdfunding campaign a few years ago. One of my favorite projects. Hey Topher! Are you guys cross checking this with daily satellite imagery? I met with a guy who's company gets a full HD shot of the earth every 24 hours and they'd be happy to give you guys access to the visual data (they also train algorithms on it to detect all sorts of activity). Anyhow, I'll shoot…
I'm asking because Sea Shepherd could not continue an anti-whaling campaign because they were technologically overmatched: http://www.themercury.com.au/news/politics/sea-shepherd-anno...
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#114Where do I begin if I want to set something like this up? As an experiment - my neighborhood in India has a problem with loud motorbikes that are illegally modified. Hypothetically if I wanted to use this approach (there are probably simpler ones in this specific case), where do I start? Do I just start recording gigabytes of audio data every day and start doing some kind of FFT on the data and manually tagging cases…
I'd start with the end goal. Is the acoustic signal from the motorbikes likely to be traceable to particular bikes? If so, would the local police actually be interested in following up? There is value in quantifying just how noisy the bikers are and for just how long they disturb the neighbourhood, but you'll probably need the perpetrators to be people the police are able and willing to stop to get anywhere.
I could theoretically leave a camera running or simply trigger on high enough volume but for assuming I wanted to do it this way I'm curious about the best approach.
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#115I love these guys! I helped advise them on their crowdfunding campaign a few years ago. One of my favorite projects. Hey Topher! Are you guys cross checking this with daily satellite imagery? I met with a guy who's company gets a full HD shot of the earth every 24 hours and they'd be happy to give you guys access to the visual data (they also train algorithms on it to detect all sorts of activity). Anyhow, I'll shoot…
I recall seeing it on mark robers "is nasa a waste of money" video here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lARpY0nIQx0&vl=en
Does planet.com use that data or the company you have in mind use it?
Re: Listening for illegal logging chainsaws using TensorFlow
#116I love these guys! I helped advise them on their crowdfunding campaign a few years ago. One of my favorite projects. Hey Topher! Are you guys cross checking this with daily satellite imagery? I met with a guy who's company gets a full HD shot of the earth every 24 hours and they'd be happy to give you guys access to the visual data (they also train algorithms on it to detect all sorts of activity). Anyhow, I'll shoot…
Doesn't NASA have a dedicated satellite with API access for this type of data? (Monitoring weather, tracking deforestation, crop changes, etc). I believe its called VIIRS I recall seeing it on mark robers "is nasa a waste of money" video here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lARpY0nIQx0&vl=en Does planet.com use that data or the company you have in mind use it?
Re: Listening for illegal logging chainsaws using TensorFlow
#117I love these guys! I helped advise them on their crowdfunding campaign a few years ago. One of my favorite projects. Hey Topher! Are you guys cross checking this with daily satellite imagery? I met with a guy who's company gets a full HD shot of the earth every 24 hours and they'd be happy to give you guys access to the visual data (they also train algorithms on it to detect all sorts of activity). Anyhow, I'll shoot…
Do the shots include oceans and seas as well and would ships be visible on those shots? I'm asking because Sea Shepherd could not continue an anti-whaling campaign because they were technologically overmatched: http://www.themercury.com.au/news/politics/sea-shepherd-anno...
Re: Listening for illegal logging chainsaws using TensorFlow
#118Are there methods to change the noise of a chainsaw, as there's money to be made in illegal logging - they'll have the incentive if they're organized, so it would be quiet enough or different enough to potentially sound like it's "outside" of a protected area or not a chainsaw at all?
Until of course they’re using decent newer phones that can do edge inference
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#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
Exactly. Not to mention that some other guy in this thread said that in Brazil now all forestry equipment is sold with GPS tracking, so there's literally zero need for such a device regardless. If they want people to stop chopping down forests they need to provide them with a differnt, viable source of income. If I was living in deep poverty and there was a forest near me I'd chop it down, no question about it.
The sole voice of reason- thank you. This money should be invested into fusion or solar research - if energy is cheap- somebody will find a vay to convert it into fast vat grown rainforrest- and voila-> Unemployed drunks protesting before the automatic growthlab and sawmill. Its very hard to prevent behaviour thats economical. Its way easier to subvert the economics behind that. If you want to save nature- compress a…
Or politicized unemployed people chopping your head off because you took their jobs and gave nothing back. It goes both ways.
I don't think you understook what I meant.
By giving them an alternative source of income, I meant the workers, not the corporations.
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#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is a really cool application of this technology, great work! Do you have any blog posts explaining the types of models you're using or open source repos that one could contribute to? (Asking as a ML/Software Engineer who's pleasantly surprised and yearning to contribute to something like this!)
Thanks! We are a relatively small engineering team and we were mainly focused on improving our system. This took a lot of effort and time, we just haven't had a chance yet to think about open sourcing or blogging. Our days were focused on coding. If there's interest in blog posts, I could write up some of our technology. Just let me know whether there's an interest and what you'd like to know.