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Ask HN: If you were to ditch Gmail, what would be your alternative to email?
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Re: Ask HN: If you were to ditch Gmail, what would be your alternative to email?
#22How does it matter if most people are still using Gmail? Email is a very open and widespread protocol. I'd continue using email 100%.
Because even if you're not on gmail, almost everyone you're emailing will be... therefore, your emails are on Gmail by default.
Re: Ask HN: If you were to ditch Gmail, what would be your alternative to email?
#23How does it matter if most people are still using Gmail? Email is a very open and widespread protocol. I'd continue using email 100%.
Because even if you're not on gmail, almost everyone you're emailing will be... therefore, your emails are on Gmail by default.
OK I misunderstood. Good point.
Re: Ask HN: If you were to ditch Gmail, what would be your alternative to email?
#24Fastmail is a great standards based Gmail alternative. They use Cryus Imap under the hood and give back to the community. It is both powerful and easy to use. They were the only ones to be able to accommodate my formally self hosted overly complicated email setup. For the truly esoteric needs, they support custom Sieve code. [1] For business purposes Office 365 is great. It has the full power of Exchange under the ho…
I recommend Fastmail as well. I payed like 10 dollars per year at first but now I pay 20 dollars since I have a lot of stored email. It's absolutely worth it. The user interface is very modern and fast, and these guys actually do care about privacy. There are lots of good blog posts from them too, which always makes a lot of sense and are not written in enterprise language (full of you know what).
Re: Ask HN: If you were to ditch Gmail, what would be your alternative to email?
#25Lavabit: https://lavabit.com
It looks like you can run the server on your own hardware, but I have not tried this so YMMV. https://github.com/lavabit/magma
Re: Ask HN: If you were to ditch Gmail, what would be your alternative to email?
#26There are currently 20 replies here, and of those, 19 didn't read your question properly and just answered with a different email provider. I know there's a trend on HN of people commenting without reading linked articles but this is particularly bad. It's a short question on this page.
In answer to your question, this is a multifaceted problem that comes down to: what do I use email for and how else can that work.
I had already mostly switched from email to instant messaging (Facebook, WhatsApp, SMS, Riot.im, etc.). These have some of their own problems but that's a different discussion so the remaining use-cases are:
- open source code mailing lists: Github issues, dependent on adoption but most seem to have moved here
- private company PM emails: many moved to Slack which I detest, or an issue tracker which is not so bad, or other dedicated PM software. There's usually not much individual choice here though unless you're running the company.
- newsletter updates: these typically come from services like MailChimp so using non-Google email to receive these is fine.
- account confirmation: highly dependent on adoption but SMS is becoming an alternative here often
- official correspondences: job applications, etc. There is no alternative. Possibly a space with room for disruption but it would be incredibly challenging.
Generally though, many options sub a federated technology with a lot of user choice (email) for a centralised walled garden. While I'd recommend Riot.im for the messaging part, my main comment here would be that it would be nicer to just have a built-in email client feature or plugin that alterted you in an obvious manner to the service you were communicating with (doing lookups on the To:/Cc:/Bcc: fields before you send. AND a not-just-for-geeks viable alternative to Gmail that could gain ground over time.
Re: Ask HN: If you were to ditch Gmail, what would be your alternative to email?
#27There are currently 20 replies here, and of those, 19 didn't read your question properly and just answered with a different email provider. I know there's a trend on HN of people commenting without reading linked articles but this is particularly bad. It's a short question on this page. In answer to your question, this is a multifaceted problem that comes down to: what do I use email for and how else can that work. I…
Up voted because I'm one of the guilty people you mentioned
I wish there were a standard of sorts in im space. It's not signal because it doesn't allow for saving conversations.
Re: Ask HN: If you were to ditch Gmail, what would be your alternative to email?
#28While not for everyone, I ditched Gmail for my own self-hosted server. I started gradually with low-profile accounts, and moved slowly towards more and more important things. It's a lot of fun, if you're into server stuff.
Re: Ask HN: If you were to ditch Gmail, what would be your alternative to email?
#29There are currently 20 replies here, and of those, 19 didn't read your question properly and just answered with a different email provider. I know there's a trend on HN of people commenting without reading linked articles but this is particularly bad. It's a short question on this page. In answer to your question, this is a multifaceted problem that comes down to: what do I use email for and how else can that work. I…
Up voted because I'm one of the guilty people you mentioned I wish there were a standard of sorts in im space. It's not signal because it doesn't allow for saving conversations.
> standard of sorts in im space.
XMPP? Check out https://conversations.im/ and https://dino.im/
Encrypted, federated and modern.
Re: Ask HN: If you were to ditch Gmail, what would be your alternative to email?
#30Fastmail is a great standards based Gmail alternative. They use Cryus Imap under the hood and give back to the community. It is both powerful and easy to use. They were the only ones to be able to accommodate my formally self hosted overly complicated email setup. For the truly esoteric needs, they support custom Sieve code. [1] For business purposes Office 365 is great. It has the full power of Exchange under the ho…
I'll hop on the bandwagon as well. They are a great bunch of techs who give a shit about privacy, technology and service. In other words they work hard at things I give a shit about.