I feel sorry for the guy because it really seems like he needs better dreams.
Omaha man ‘liked’ a tweet, then lost his job
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Can confirm, I run a business. The biggest expense to my company are the employees. All the regulatory requirements and bullshit that comes along with it, not to mention the risk of an employee suing the company for whatever reason. There's a lot of risk hiring employees, that's why I try to minimize the number of employees I have to hire, whenever possible.
Your employees are also the profit generators so I would say it just comes with the territory.
Yes, but his point is that the harder the regulatory regime makes it to fire a bad employee, the fewer employees he will be willing to hire in the first place.
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#363Even if it wasn't an accident -- even if he saw the Tweet, and on behalf of Marriott and in full intention of broadcasting such, he clicked "Like" on this tweet, it's completely insane he would be fired for it. The tweet exhibits a positive sentiment. I would not expect most people to know that this sentiment matters to China. This is another example of China exerting influence on the open web, and it's shameful that…
Thought experiment: a Russian multinational, Gazprom maybe, likes a campaign tweet for “Free Alaska.” How does it come across in America?
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Simply put, the harder it is to fire someone, the harder it will be to get a job.
No - because job availability depends on other considerations too. Strangely, European countries with more humane employment laws don’t have correspondingly higher unemployment.
Your assertion does not match the available data.
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#365There is only one person to blame for this and it is the executive in charge. What a fucking chicken shit and horrible leader to throw his subordinate under the bus for what is a process and institutional problem. I️ wont be using the Marriot again (not that I️ wouldve).
Yes, total dick move. And who knows how high up the blame lies. The bottom-rung exec is likely just as clueless. Clearly they need to outsource the social media stuff. This is going to become more and more important for big corps to get on top of, and having a few click-monkeys do it is just obviously not going to work.
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No they don't. If they need it their business is terrible and should not exist. I live in the Netherlands and our restaurants do just fine without being allowed to fire at will and without the need for tips to give employees a decent wage. It's called sane labor laws.
It’s a different world. The US is a free country. You are free to work wherever they accept you. A job is not a right: you cannot demand anything that someone else must provide you. And people for the most part are free to start a business pretty much whether it should exist or not regardless of anybody else’s opinions.
And all of this is different from NL or most other European countries how?
Hint: it isn't, we just have sensible protections against wrongful termination.
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Every company tries to minimize the number of employees. But the fact remains that the employee always takes on more risk, as being fired at the wrong time, say during the crisis we just had, might end up in homelessness. Yet companies love to pretend they are the ones taking the risk and need the right to abuse employees, fire then at will, don't oay a living wage and all that.
That's because they are taking a risk. If you make it harder to fire people, companies simply won't hire them in the first place. The harder it is to fire someone, the more dangerous it is to hire them . The more cautious employers will be about hiring in the first place. This is a real problem in countries that have strict firing laws.
>simply won't hire them in the first place
Except that is simply not true, and very easily proven false simply by showing countries with actual employee protection and unions like e.g. Denmark.
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No, that’s wrong. It’s just one of the lies you Americans love to tell each other.
I was trying to find supporting evidence for this (I certainly feel it to be true), Unfortunately I found the opposite[1]. Though this was till 2016, so I wonder if it's changed. [1]: https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/11/these-are-the-countri...
There's a lot of inertia involved in this.
I have launched international hiring processes for PhD studentship positions at my lab. More than once, I have had good candidates who ended up rejecting an offer and going to the US instead because their universities have more prestige.
Sometimes the convenience of these decisions for them was, let's say, highly questionable (although I really hope I'm wrong and wish them the best of luck!). For example, a person from Iran who went there to first be hit by Trump's travel ban, and then the graduate student hike. Here that person would have had a good salary, enough to live well, and no such worries. And even though my university as a whole is ranked worse that the university they ended up in, my group/lab is better on any metric.
I have also had a candidate from an Asian country who really wanted to come here, but their parents wanted their child to go to a "prestigious US university" so they didn't let them.
I do think that if you ask in Europe, almost no one wants to go to the US. At least that's my experience. But in other areas of the world the inertia of the US's reputation is strong.
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Pretty much all of them except a few European nations.
>Pretty much all of them except a few European nations. Where on earth did you get that idea? There are no affluent western nation besides the United States with "At Will" employment except perhaps Israel (I was unable to confirm).
The UK effectively has at will employment for the first two years. (But with Equality Act protections for people with protected characteristics: you can't fire someone because of their gender, for example).
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I don't know what perception of the country you have but it's not the Soviet Union you know, having financial issue is a valid reason to fire employees. The US is the only developed place without reasonable workers laws so it's more an exception than anything else.
In the US, we call this argument "Red Baiting". Sure, let's accuse our opponent of starving 10s of millions of people to death! When there's a financial problem, there are multiple differing opinions as to what's reasonable. But if you want to call the US the "only developed place without reasonable worker laws", you might want to consider Denmark. Because they don't have the opinion you're propagating.
Comparing to Denmark, which has way better employee laws than the US, is weird regardless because of the difference in unemployment benefits and general safety net there is in Denmark. Free hospitals, free education, etc.