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Omaha man ‘liked’ a tweet, then lost his job

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If you suggested Nebraska was independent, nobody would flip out, because it's nonsense. Unfortunately large industrial empires need space and resources and so it's necessary to expand beyond what might be the "real" border of your country. But who's to complain? Everyone likes the Dali Lama, but capitalism doesn't allow you to choose karma over cash.

Western China is a combination of agriculture, and completely barren, unused land. They have plenty, without Tibet and Taiwan. There's another reason, here.

> There's another reason, here.

The traditional explanation, AFAIK, is that China seeks a buffer around the 'Han core' (maybe the SE 2/3 of China). That buffer is Manchuria in the north, Xinjiang in the NW, Tibet in the SW, and now they seek control of the South China Sea in the south and the various seas and islands to the east. If you look at the last imperial dynasty, the Qing (~1644-1911), you can see the same map and geographical strategy. (The Communists follow the imperial dynasties in other ways too, including now a head of state for life. Will his kids follow him?)

That also follows traditional, pre-democratic great power strategy of creating a buffer region. For example, Russia is trying to do it now with Ukraine, Belarus, and Georgia (and with eyes on the Baltics), and did it in the past with the USSR and the Warsaw Pact states. Contrast that with democratic nations such as the US and those in the EU, and their relations with their neighbors.

Re: Omaha man ‘liked’ a tweet, then lost his job

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The meat of the story is that Omaha man worked for Marriott hotels on customer support. Their support system allows their agents to like tweets. The man appears to have inadvertently clicked like on a tweet while dealing with a large influx of support messages (due to a promo going on) thanking Marriott for listing Tibet as its own country which was a huge no-no due to Mariott's presence in China. Execs fire him as a…

The real story is he has no employment rights because he's in America and he's "at will." They can dismiss him because they don't like his lunch selection that day and he has no rights. That's at will employment. This type of situation plays out all over the country everyday.

For me (Spain) this is unbelievable... That firing would be totally illegal here and the worker would have to be rehired and compensated.

Man, what a country.

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> you are a startup in France, with long-term employees, and suddenly you realize you screwed up, and you have to cut your expenses in half. You dismiss employees equivalent to half of your expenses on economic grounds, and after the appropriate notice period (1 month for employees with 6 months - 2 years tenure [1]) you now have half the expenses. If that's not fast enough, I doubt your startup would have survived f…

OK, no problem, I am convinced because Europe has tons of successful startups. That works great until the next time I am interviewed by French TV about why the EU doesn't have as many startups as Silicon Valley.

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One of the few things I miss about Brazil is how much more protection I had there as a worker compared to the US.

I didn't realize Brazil had an affluent economy with a high standard of living.

That’s because you’re an ignorant cunt.

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"Dozens of social media accounts were tweeting angry things, including many death threats, at both Roy and Marriott. This seems especially odd considering Twitter itself is officially banned in China, and thus can be accessed only by residents breaking the law or by bot accounts." Not sure why they assume that "dozens of social media accounts" of pro-China supporters is not possible. They're making some weird assumpt…

> it's seen as similar to the US/Hawaii situation

I was wondering how someone would find a way, even in this discussion, to apply 'the U.S. does it too' comment. Personally, after reading HN for awhile I can hardly distinguish between the U.S. and China.

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Have you not heard about China's 50 cent army?

To those that are unfamiliar, the "50 cent army" is China's version of America's "Operation Earnest Voice." It's basically "an astroturfing campaign by the US government.[1] The aim of the initiative is to use sockpuppets to spread pro-American propaganda on social networking sites based outside of the US. [1]" 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Earnest_Voice

Relentless!

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16665563

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I don't think the issue is Chinese culture, but it is Chinese leadership--which, admittedly, has encouraged and created a culture of concerning nationalism and subservience to authoritarians with no respect for human rights or rule of law. If you look back in contemporary Chinese history, there are several episodes where influential groups were openly supporting a more democratic society. It wasn't Chinese culture th…

The society that gives birth to the autocrats is complicit and for the most part welcoming of its values. It's a mistake to merely think of them as brainwashed. They rule their society still because their values and the values of the people are aligned. http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/foreigners/2... /why_drivers_in_china_intentionally_kill_the_pedestrians_they_hit_china_s.html It's a pragmatic societ…

Harsh. What about postwar Germany?

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Can confirm, I run a business. The biggest expense to my company are the employees. All the regulatory requirements and bullshit that comes along with it, not to mention the risk of an employee suing the company for whatever reason. There's a lot of risk hiring employees, that's why I try to minimize the number of employees I have to hire, whenever possible.

Every company tries to minimize the number of employees. But the fact remains that the employee always takes on more risk, as being fired at the wrong time, say during the crisis we just had, might end up in homelessness. Yet companies love to pretend they are the ones taking the risk and need the right to abuse employees, fire then at will, don't oay a living wage and all that.

That's because they are taking a risk. If you make it harder to fire people, companies simply won't hire them in the first place. The harder it is to fire someone, the more dangerous it is to hire them. The more cautious employers will be about hiring in the first place. This is a real problem in countries that have strict firing laws.

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Depends on what you mean by "more humane" but U.S. has lower unemployment than OECD average, and European countries mostly have higher. In particular, France and Italy, known for how difficult it is to dismiss employees both individually and in masses, have high unemployment. North European countries, where individual dismissal is difficult but mass dismissal (restructuring) is easy, fare better. Germany, also with q…

It’s difficult to compare though, because of other factors. I believe the main one between countries like France and Italy and Germany is actually the Euro currency. It’s generally considered to be overvalued compared to France and Italy’s economies and undervalued compared to Germany’s. This makes Germany’s exports extremely competitive (at the expense of costlier imports) which has spurred on their ability to build…

You have the causality reversed. All of the things you enumerated are caused by the relative economic strengths of those economies. Those relative economic strengths are themselves caused by (in large part) by their regulatory regimes, particularly with respect to things like hiring and firing.

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Agreed we shouldn't cherry pick countries. One interesting thing about France and Australia is that by the Ease of Doing Business Index over the last decade, France is gaining on but still behind Australia. (FRA: 44 -> 31; AUS: 6 -> 14). So suppose we agreed France was performing worse economically than Australia over the last decade. Then we might conclude that absolute position matters and liberalization is importa…

Another relationship to study is between the quasi job-for-life laws we have in France and being the country with the most population under antidepressants in the world.

> France and being the country with the most population under antidepressants in the world.

I was intrigued by this and decided to have a look at the figures and I can't find anything to support your statement. Where do you get your information from?

From Business Insider graphing OECD figures for the number of people per 1000 who take antidepressants shows France to be 50/1000 which is 16th from the top.

http://static3.uk.businessinsider.com/image/56b381f7dd0895c4...

Directly from the OECD site is a page showing the dose consumed per 1000 people. It's very similar to the above, possibly the same data source but they are supposedly measured in different ways.

https://asset.keepeek-cache.com/medias/domain21/_pdf/media23...

They both show France uses a lot less than many other countries,less than half Iceland and bout 2/3rds of the UK, Sweden, Canada and Australia.

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