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Re: Omaha man ‘liked’ a tweet, then lost his job

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Post by kodablah »

chrischen wrote: post #236
kodablah wrote: post #115

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> That depends if you think some Americans would be offended if you claimed Hawaii was its own country Of course not. They'd just ignore you. Not force you to suspend online sales to your 300 stores in the country. Why is there always someone willing to twist things into a pretzel in search of moral equivalence when it comes to China or Russia? There's no pot. There's no kettle. Using your leverage to force a company…

What they did was an economic sanction and it is something the US does engage in to further political goals. The US uses similar tactics to force countries to comply with US drug laws, punish Russia for invading Ukraine, as well as other less noble political goals. It’s often in the form of sanctions but can also be in the form of withholding aid from poor countries or embargoes. They do this to many central american…

Not just about what they did, it's also about why. It was a liked tweet.

(Why bring up US foreign policy again? Many don't agree with those decisions either and it's unrelated.)

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Post by chrischen »

ucarion wrote: post #137
chrischen wrote: post #56

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That depends if you think some Americans would be offended if you claimed Hawaii was its own country. It was also invaded and then forcibly gentrified and colonized. That's not to even mention the entirety of the United States. It's not so much if China has legitimate claims on Tibet so much as it's the pot calling the kettle black. The greatest conquerer on Earth and its modern beneficiaries telling another country…

The government of the United States does not demand that mainland China relinquish control of Tibet. Nor does the USA insist on censoring mainland controversies or on punishing foreigners who say inconvenient things. This difference is essential. You are free to criticize America. People, including politicians, regularly do so. China, despite claiming to be a strong, ascendant power, is remarkably sensitive when it c…

Marriott didn’t criticize China so much as enacted policy that China didn’t feel served its political interests and policies. As a result they retaliated by denying them the market and money making opportunity that they do not have a entitlement to in the first place.

It’s no different from say US enforcing political policies such as the Nixon era drug wars against black and other poor minorities, sanctions against Russia to deter their invasion of Ukraine, US withdrawal from the TPP, denying aid in retaliation to Central American countries if they refuse to enact anti-drug law or specific policies (policies that only really serve the short term interests of the politician in office).

Denying a foreign company certain rights is not inherently any different from a preferential tariff such as the ones Trump is trying to enact. Doing so for political purposes—well that’s the whole point of the government: every move it makes is politically or policy motivated.

Re: Omaha man ‘liked’ a tweet, then lost his job

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Post by chrischen »

kodablah wrote: post #241
chrischen wrote: post #236

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What they did was an economic sanction and it is something the US does engage in to further political goals. The US uses similar tactics to force countries to comply with US drug laws, punish Russia for invading Ukraine, as well as other less noble political goals. It’s often in the form of sanctions but can also be in the form of withholding aid from poor countries or embargoes. They do this to many central american…

Not just about what they did, it's also about why. It was a liked tweet. (Why bring up US foreign policy again? Many don't agree with those decisions either and it's unrelated.)

I’m simply replying to your comment that America do in fact enact policies to further its own political goals all the time. In fact the US is a frequent offender of doing so to influce foreign countries while at least China usually focuses on itself.

If you meant just the American people, well not all Chinese side with China on the Tibet issue, but most do. But then that’s personal opinions and you can’t really blame them for having a personal opinion.

Using political leverage to force an outcome is inevitable, and frankly, discussing right or wrong on the matter is pointless as you cannot ever achieve politically neutral policy. All policy is enacted with a certain goal so it cannot be neutral by definition (unless your policy does nothing).

Either China wants Tibet as part of its territory or it doesn’t. In either case it will use its political powers to further whatever the goal is.

Re: Omaha man ‘liked’ a tweet, then lost his job

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Post by jknoepfler »

jknoepfler wrote: post #4

That's the first time I've been hit with a survey-wall. Warning that the content is not free. The title is click bait anyway, so I'm not sure what I was expecting.

this comment is being down-voted, which is not characteristic of my comments. I'd appreciate some kind of insight into why that is happening, from those who are down-voting.

Re: Omaha man ‘liked’ a tweet, then lost his job

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Post by amorphid »

tinza123 wrote: post #170
intopieces wrote: post #25

Even if it wasn't an accident -- even if he saw the Tweet, and on behalf of Marriott and in full intention of broadcasting such, he clicked "Like" on this tweet, it's completely insane he would be fired for it. The tweet exhibits a positive sentiment. I would not expect most people to know that this sentiment matters to China. This is another example of China exerting influence on the open web, and it's shameful that…

It is not that hard to imagine being fired by "clicking" likes, let's not oversimplify like this. Official tweeter accounts carry weights. Plus this is not about China at all, what if this is a Nazi tweet? An ISIS tweet? An anti-LGBT tweet? It's either the company's way of dealing with PR problems, or the employee's misconduct, but not about China.

> what if this is a Nazi tweet? An ISIS tweet? An anti-LGBT tweet?

Say "oops" and unlike the tweet. If it keeps happening, maybe you've got a problem.

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Post by jliptzin »

KyeRussell wrote: post #203
banned1 wrote: post #70

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Which is why many companies don’t hire many people in France http://www.nortonrosefulbright.com/knowledge/publications/14...

Proponents of a largely deregulated labour market love talking about France. As someone working in Australia—a country with labour laws that are more sane than France (and definitely the U.S.)—instantly bringing up France just tends to stink of a false dichotomy and a line of rhetoric from people that try to justify the U.S.'s unjustifiably unfair labour laws. I suggest that people who aren't familiar with Australia'…

Can you terminate employees because you need to save money (i.e. laying them off)?

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Post by chx »

zeth___ wrote: post #27

Up next, all atheists and homosexuals get fired from any company that deals with Saudi Arabia. We can't let backwards dictatorships have any say in how a democracy is ran. Marion should be made an example of in the US. Say a wink wink nudge nudge major tax audit of every single Marion hotel.

> We can't let backwards dictatorships have any say in how a democracy is ran.

So in your opinion both Gulf Wars had nothing to do with the strong influence Saudi Arabia has over the USA and in specific, the Bush family?

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Post by chrischen »

Turing_Machine wrote: post #191
goatlover wrote: post #183

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Not sure exactly when the modern age began, but pretty sure it wasn't ancient Greece.

He said "modern beneficiaries", not that the conquest itself was modern. Maybe he was talking about Spain, Portugal, or the Netherlands.

I’m talking about Americans and everyone here benefitting from the fruits of the conquest. We exist because it happened, and to deny it is to deny our own existence.

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Post by chrischen »

dlgeek wrote: post #114
chrischen wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That depends if you think some Americans would be offended if you claimed Hawaii was its own country. It was also invaded and then forcibly gentrified and colonized. That's not to even mention the entirety of the United States. It's not so much if China has legitimate claims on Tibet so much as it's the pot calling the kettle black. The greatest conquerer on Earth and its modern beneficiaries telling another country…

> The greatest conquerer on Earth and its modern beneficiaries What'd England and the commonwealth do now?

They were the greatest. Now they’re primarily for money laundering.

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Post by mthoms »

YZF wrote: post #188
mthoms wrote: post #122

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>Pretty much all of them except a few European nations. Where on earth did you get that idea? There are no affluent western nation besides the United States with "At Will" employment except perhaps Israel (I was unable to confirm).

Israel isn't "at will"...

Thanks. I saw that mentioned on Quora but there was no citation provided.
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