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Re: Ask HN: Does HN respect the GDPR?

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Post by krapp »

vgf wrote: post #21
NicoJuicy wrote: post #18

Or decouple the content from the username/email, GDPR approved, content is still alive

They "do not support that". Agree that it would be a nice workaround. Should also be technically trivial.

>Should also be technically trivial.

It would be technically trivial for a forum built with the typical MVC architecture with data backed up in a relational database - just change some templates, point the user ID to a global 'deleted' user, and done, or something like that.

But Hacker News is a project site built in a custom Lisp variant that runs on one core, mostly in RAM from what I understand, with all of the data in flat files, and I don't even know if they have a development server. Obviously, they can do it, but it may not be that trivial.

Or maybe they could bang it out in an hour, I don't know. It would be nice if they put up a devlog and talked about some of the issues they have with updating the site and what their future plans with it were. Maybe talk up Arc and Lisp development a little.

Re: Ask HN: Does HN respect the GDPR?

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Post by emodendroket »

jakeogh wrote: post #78
Someone wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nice idea, but not 100% consistent with reality. Several countries apply their laws to their citizens, even if they aren’t in their own country. For example ”Your worldwide income is subject to U.S. income tax, regardless of where you reside.” ( https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/us-c... ) Other example: the “Hague invasion act” which authorizes the US president to invade Europe in order to liber…

If I am in my country, I am only bound by the laws in my country. Sure I can piss off another country (violate their blasphemy laws for example) and then I better remember to not go there.

Not if an extradition treaty applies.

Re: Ask HN: Does HN respect the GDPR?

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Post by krapp »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #54
vgf wrote: post #5

A particularly ugly thing happens if the HN mods for some good or bad reason decide to ban an account: their contributions will be there forever, with no ability to append explanations to previous posts. This will after May 25 be illegal for services offered in the EU, but I kind of think that the same courtesy should apply to non-europeans.

> no ability to append explanations to previous posts Nobody can reply to posts that are more than a month old anyway. And the edit window is only a few hours.

I feel like Hacker News should auto-delete threads that old, anyway. Chances are there's nothing there people will care about, and if they do, they can make their own archive.

Re: Ask HN: Does HN respect the GDPR?

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Post by mindslight »

emodendroket wrote: post #75
mindslight wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Massachusetts is attempting to promulgate sales taxes on out of state Internet purchases using similar logic applied to cookies [0]. It seems that all it takes is nouns being put on these things, for that parasitic ambient authority to attempt to jam itself in. Having said that, as a USian, it seems like it's at least possible for EU regulation to have its intended effects (/me glances at uUSB connectors on everythin…

It seems a little different if we're talking about selling and shipping goods to a territory.

Per US federal law, retailers are only responsible for collecting a given state's sales tax if they have a physical presence in that state. The legal theory specifically relies on considering the cookie on the user's computer as a physical presence in the state.

Re: Ask HN: Does HN respect the GDPR?

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Post by jakeogh »

emodendroket wrote: post #82
jakeogh wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I am in my country, I am only bound by the laws in my country. Sure I can piss off another country (violate their blasphemy laws for example) and then I better remember to not go there.

Not if an extradition treaty applies.

Extradition for? Doing something that is legal in my country while in my country?

Re: Ask HN: Does HN respect the GDPR?

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Post by emodendroket »

jakeogh wrote: post #85
emodendroket wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not if an extradition treaty applies.

Extradition for? Doing something that is legal in my country while in my country?

Yes, that is possible.

I can't imagine the US is going to extradite anyone for violating the GDPR, but there is no principle barring it. Kim Dotcom's case is probably of interest here.

Re: Ask HN: Does HN respect the GDPR?

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Post by jakeogh »

emodendroket wrote: post #86
jakeogh wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Extradition for? Doing something that is legal in my country while in my country?

Yes, that is possible. I can't imagine the US is going to extradite anyone for violating the GDPR, but there is no principle barring it. Kim Dotcom's case is probably of interest here.

In the case of the US, you are incorrect. The US Constitution is the supreme law of the land, having a extradition treaty changes nothing. Kim was not in the US, and "we" pulled strings to get to him in NZ. I'm not arguing that was right (it was not!) but that's a NZ problem. No US court is ever going to extradite a US citizen for _not_ breaking a US law. This goes directly to why we have the 2nd.

If you claim otherwise, I would appreciate an example.

Re: Ask HN: Does HN respect the GDPR?

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Post by emodendroket »

jakeogh wrote: post #87
emodendroket wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, that is possible. I can't imagine the US is going to extradite anyone for violating the GDPR, but there is no principle barring it. Kim Dotcom's case is probably of interest here.

In the case of the US, you are incorrect. The US Constitution is the supreme law of the land, having a extradition treaty changes nothing. Kim was not in the US, and "we" pulled strings to get to him in NZ. I'm not arguing that was right (it was not!) but that's a NZ problem. No US court is ever going to extradite a US citizen for _not_ breaking a US law. This goes directly to why we have the 2nd. If you claim otherw…

What part of the Constitution would bar this?

Re: Ask HN: Does HN respect the GDPR?

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Post by jakeogh »

emodendroket wrote: post #88
jakeogh wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the case of the US, you are incorrect. The US Constitution is the supreme law of the land, having a extradition treaty changes nothing. Kim was not in the US, and "we" pulled strings to get to him in NZ. I'm not arguing that was right (it was not!) but that's a NZ problem. No US court is ever going to extradite a US citizen for _not_ breaking a US law. This goes directly to why we have the 2nd. If you claim otherw…

What part of the Constitution would bar this?

Start here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Declaration_of_I...

Then move on to what juries are, and what peers are.

In the US we have 3 boxes, the ballot box, the jury box, and the ammo box. It's a beautiful system. I realize it might be hard to understand that we are not chattel, and make our own laws, but that's the way it is.

You are making an extraordinary claim, that a US citizen can be extradited for _not_ breaking a US law, the burden is on you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixth_Amendment_to_the_United_...

If you think "the statue" in "words of the statute" means a foreign law I really cant help you since you gotta start redefining what "the" means at that point.

Re: Ask HN: Does HN respect the GDPR?

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Post by emodendroket »

jakeogh wrote: post #89
emodendroket wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What part of the Constitution would bar this?

Start here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Declaration_of_I... Then move on to what juries are, and what peers are. In the US we have 3 boxes, the ballot box, the jury box, and the ammo box. It's a beautiful system. I realize it might be hard to understand that we are not chattel, and make our own laws, but that's the way it is. You are making an extraordinary claim, that a US citizen can be extradited f…

OK, well, if your exegesis of the Constitution begins with citing the Declaration of Independence and includes rants about armed insurrection, I think it's safe to say it's not that well thought out.
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