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Jeff Jarvis on the Real Reason the Media is Going After Craig Newmark

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Re: Jeff Jarvis on the Real Reason the Media is Going After Craig Newmark

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Apologists for Craig's list haven't been able to answer questions regarding sex trafficking on Craig's list and seem to think that their best defense is in attacking everyone who raises questions.

The part about everyone hating Newmark and his work because "He doesn’t do it to get rich" and because he is a disruptor who kills classified ad revenues is amusing.

All the recent hoopla is over a CNN interview and afaik little or none of CNN's ad revenues are threatened by Craig's List. My understanding is that Newmark has made tens of millions of dollars and it is absurd to suggest that journalists would go easier on him if he made even more money to qualify as "rich" in the writer's dictionary.

[edit] Interesting to see my comment downvoted to zero and a response saying that "The same people that own the TV news own the newspapers".

Can anyone tell us which newspaper is owned by CNN or the people who own CNN ?

[edit 2] The downvoting trend is amusing. A short while ago, my comment was at 4, now it is at -1. I see one more response and this one says that Time Warner owns magazines.

Right, so Time Warner owns some magazines, but NO NEWSPAPERS, Craig's List has hurt newspaper ad revenues , Newmark has only earned 10s of millions of dollars and isn't "rich" by the writer's standards ....and because of all this, a whole lot of downvoters seem to believe that CNN shouldn't ask any questions about Craig's List sex trafficking This is funny

Re: Jeff Jarvis on the Real Reason the Media is Going After Craig Newmark

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Apologists for Craig's list haven't been able to answer questions regarding sex trafficking on Craig's list and seem to think that their best defense is in attacking everyone who raises questions. The part about everyone hating Newmark and his work because "He doesn’t do it to get rich" and because he is a disruptor who kills classified ad revenues is amusing. All the recent hoopla is over a CNN interview and afaik l…

The same people that own the TV news own the newspapers.

Re: Jeff Jarvis on the Real Reason the Media is Going After Craig Newmark

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Is it just me, or has 'the news' gotten worse over time? I entirely stopped following news and news media about a year ago. I'm always a little frightened by it when I see any of it poke through in places I still visit, like HN.

Twitter is mostly filling this role for me.

Re: Jeff Jarvis on the Real Reason the Media is Going After Craig Newmark

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Is it just me, or has 'the news' gotten worse over time? I entirely stopped following news and news media about a year ago. I'm always a little frightened by it when I see any of it poke through in places I still visit, like HN.

Actually the news have just recently fallen from their very high quality during the 60 and early 81.

Walter Cronkite actually said on tv "and that is the way it is" once he had delivered the news, but not if he ended the news with an opinion piece.

Now compare this with William Hearst with his "Please remain. You furnish the pictures and I will furnish the war" during the period of yellow journalism.

There aren't really any Hearsts around anymore (though their actual heirs still run the news), and we are properly closer to Conkrite but we are more aware of what is actually going on now than ever - that is why it looks like the news are getting worse.

Re: Jeff Jarvis on the Real Reason the Media is Going After Craig Newmark

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Apologists for Craig's list haven't been able to answer questions regarding sex trafficking on Craig's list and seem to think that their best defense is in attacking everyone who raises questions. The part about everyone hating Newmark and his work because "He doesn’t do it to get rich" and because he is a disruptor who kills classified ad revenues is amusing. All the recent hoopla is over a CNN interview and afaik l…

The same people that own the TV news own the newspapers.

Not only is Craigslist affecting ad revenue, it a safe target since it is not a business likely to buy ads. Some news departments get a bit sheepish when it comes to attacking companies that buy advertising. They're more apt to run stories that amount to press releases.

News outlets seem to like stories like sex scandals in general... remember how much attention they gave Michael Jackson. Even jury selection swamped out some other stories that actually mattered. Here's one of the stories I saw no mention of locally during jury selection:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3206841.stm

Re: Jeff Jarvis on the Real Reason the Media is Going After Craig Newmark

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Apologists for Craig's list haven't been able to answer questions regarding sex trafficking on Craig's list and seem to think that their best defense is in attacking everyone who raises questions. The part about everyone hating Newmark and his work because "He doesn’t do it to get rich" and because he is a disruptor who kills classified ad revenues is amusing. All the recent hoopla is over a CNN interview and afaik l…

The same people that own the TV news own the newspapers.

Which newspapers do Turner Broadcasting own?

Re: Jeff Jarvis on the Real Reason the Media is Going After Craig Newmark

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It's nothing more than a sensational story: product you are comfortable and familiar with is secretly a tool of sex and human trafficking. That's almost the perfect evening news. Of course they'll run it. People eat it up. It has nothing to do with disruption or ad revenue or conspiracies against human progress; aside, of course, from the tangential fact that it's a familiar product because of those features. It's just good pop journalism. That's it.
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