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In the Middle Ages nobody was taking a "vacation" in the sense we mean it; that's really a more Victorian idea. But enough people today can't actually afford to go away when they have time off.
Actually that's not quite true either. Pilgrimages were quite common, and although not necessarily a vacation as we would consider it, many even fairly poor people traveled quite far distances just for the spiritual pleasure of it.
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Yeah, sure, but how many construction workers work only 150 days a year and have mid-day naps?
Work on oil rigs, fishing (Deadliest Catch guys?), underwater welding etc. are usually done for a couple months a year and taking the rest off, (at least from anecdotal data from folks I know). Construction work can be similar in places where harsh winters make it impossible to build anything during winter (frozen ground and all that). Farming can be similar.
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One begins to wonder why Greece works so hard and still has a terrible economy, together with the other PIIGS. MUST BE BECAUSE THEY ARE LAZY! /s (disclosure: I'm a piig)
The sad thing is that this kind of propagandistic sentences are crafted to make people believe that. Usually people don't understand producitvity so they understand what you said from the sentence. A German reading that will think "Ha we work less and produce more" but that is NOT what productivity means. Productivity is the ratio between man work and output. So if someone works only 1 min a month and earns for that…
One of the reasons for Germany's high productivity is that manufacturing is a large sector there.
Re: Medieval peasants got more vacation time than modern workers (2013)
#44The USA are abolishing themselves... > In Germany, an economic powerhouse, workers rank second to last in number of hours worked. Despite more time off, German workers are the eighth most productive in Europe, while the long-toiling Greeks rank 24 out of 25 in productivity. Work smart, not hard.
Germany's median net wealth per adult is below that of the US ($47,000 vs $56,000 for 2017). Given the US isn't renowned for how well its middle does these days, that implies something has gone wrong in Germany.
Per the OECD figures, the US is the third most productive in terms of GDP per hour worked, at around $73 for 2017.
Excluding Norway, the best off country in terms of a combination of GDP per hour worked, least hours worked per week, and highest median net wealth is... Belgium.
They have $161,000 median wealth per adult, about 30 hours worked per week and a GDP per hour worked just a notch below the US.
Here's how the OECD ranks hours worked per week:
Mexico 41.2, South Korea 40.7, Greece 39.1, Chile 38.2, Russia 38, Latvia 36.7, Israel 36.3, Iceland 36.1, Portugal 35.9, Lithuania 35.8, Estonia 35.6, New Zealand 33.8, Czech 33.8, Slovakia 33.7, US 33.6, Hungary 33.6, Ireland 33.5, Italy 33.1, Japan 33.1, Canada 32.8, Australia 32.7, Spain 32.5, Slovenia 32.5, UK 31.9, Finland 31.6, Sweden 31, Austria 30.9, Switzerland 30.6, Belgium 29.8, France 28.2, Netherlands 27.4, Norway 27.3, Denmark 27.2, Germany 26.3
Re: Medieval peasants got more vacation time than modern workers (2013)
#45Because he didn't have a choice. If he could trade this vacation for more food, medication for his children, or many other resources, he gladly would - but I don't think that as a peasant in the winter you really could make anything out of your time without a capitalist society and other jobs. All modern people have a choice about how much time they spend at their jobs. I've switched to 3-day workweek sometimes, raki…
By "all modern people", you apparently mean the relatively small group of middle-class professionals who can earn a decent salary on a shorter working week, and are in a position to negotiate it. There is a far larger group of people working in low-skilled jobs whose entire salary is not enough to cover their outgoings, and must also rely on consumer debt and government assistance to support themselves and their fami…
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#47> In addition to relaxing during long holidays, the medieval peasant took his sweet time eating meals, and the day often included time for an afternoon snooze. I have serious doubts about this. Maybe someone could provide additional insight. I doubt all time not working the fields was "relaxing during long holidays". It would likely be spent on other chores. Food was likely not plentiful (when it is, population explo…
I would not want to swap positions with the 14th century peasant I'd go further than that. I would not want to swap positions with a 14th century monarch.
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#50> In addition to relaxing during long holidays, the medieval peasant took his sweet time eating meals, and the day often included time for an afternoon snooze. I have serious doubts about this. Maybe someone could provide additional insight. I doubt all time not working the fields was "relaxing during long holidays". It would likely be spent on other chores. Food was likely not plentiful (when it is, population explo…
I don't know that I see the relevancy of the chores, though. Do they go away if you work longer hours? Medieval peasants, as far as I know, did drink a lot of beer.
Because back then beer was safer to drink than water.