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Restricted by YouTube, Gun Enthusiasts Are Taking Their Videos to Pornhub

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Re: Restricted by YouTube, Gun Enthusiasts Are Taking Their Videos to Pornhub

#41
post #22

I think the news from the last couple days, make it clear that the next step is to MOVE OUT of all those platforms. History is repeating. As soon as they got enough power, they use it to exercise their own view of the world, deleting data//videos they don't like or reselling it to 3rd parties. We need to come up with a better solution for non-technical users to post content outside those platforms.

Fortuneately we have a distributed network of computers all over the world. With the rise of home fiber and raspberry pi type cheap boxes we can do it with data local and software free. I’m not sure what the business model is. I’m looking to porn and privacy for early examples. This worked for the Internet. AOL chat/porn was a huge use case for early chat/messaging. Music piracy and video piracy before Netflix/Apple…

It’s funny that you say that. 20 years ago nobody had a problem running their personal website or FTP server on an ISDN line into their garage.

Today I have 100Mb fiber to my house. I’m pretty sure that’s enough to handle a personal video website for somebody with a modest following. Yet we live on these massive centralized platforms.

Re: Restricted by YouTube, Gun Enthusiasts Are Taking Their Videos to Pornhub

#42
post #19

It's really chilling to see these platforms, within a matter of months, go from shouting from the rooftops to promote net neutrality, to censoring and editorializing legal content.

Isn't the fear that if we don't have net neutrality, it will be harder for upstart sites (like videosofthingsthatgoboom.com) to compete with incumbents like YT? Net neutrality is largely about protecting the ability for small players to disrupt the big sites, who might be making bad decisions...

Re: Restricted by YouTube, Gun Enthusiasts Are Taking Their Videos to Pornhub

#43

I think the news from the last couple days, make it clear that the next step is to MOVE OUT of all those platforms. History is repeating. As soon as they got enough power, they use it to exercise their own view of the world, deleting data//videos they don't like or reselling it to 3rd parties. We need to come up with a better solution for non-technical users to post content outside those platforms.

I'm looking forward to IPFS https://www.ipfs.com/

Re: Restricted by YouTube, Gun Enthusiasts Are Taking Their Videos to Pornhub

#44
post #19

It's really chilling to see these platforms, within a matter of months, go from shouting from the rooftops to promote net neutrality, to censoring and editorializing legal content.

One has absolutely nothing to do with the other, dude.

Re: Restricted by YouTube, Gun Enthusiasts Are Taking Their Videos to Pornhub

#45
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fortuneately we have a distributed network of computers all over the world. With the rise of home fiber and raspberry pi type cheap boxes we can do it with data local and software free. I’m not sure what the business model is. I’m looking to porn and privacy for early examples. This worked for the Internet. AOL chat/porn was a huge use case for early chat/messaging. Music piracy and video piracy before Netflix/Apple…

It’s funny that you say that. 20 years ago nobody had a problem running their personal website or FTP server on an ISDN line into their garage. Today I have 100Mb fiber to my house. I’m pretty sure that’s enough to handle a personal video website for somebody with a modest following. Yet we live on these massive centralized platforms.

Check out Plex

Re: Restricted by YouTube, Gun Enthusiasts Are Taking Their Videos to Pornhub

#47
post #29

Not really. There is now an independent streaming service dedicated to shooting sports: https://www.full30.com/ . A lot of the youtube channels are moving there, including InRange (mentioned in the article): https://www.full30.com/channels/inrange

The problem with fragmentation is discoverability. If all the videos are on one site you might serendipitously discover that you love shooting videos when you didn’t even know they existed. If cat videos and shooting videos are on totally separate sites then that’s much less likely to happen.

That could be solved with an aggregate search tool. Independent video providors can submit results to the video search engine. Using an integrated, distributed signon (like Blockstack or uPort), friction will again be reduced to feel like one unified system

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#48
post #32
post #31

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Yes, and we have full discretion to decide we don't like them anymore if they do that. I don't think many people believe YouTube could be sued for First Amendment violation.

You'd be surprised by how many people think their First Amendment rights are trampled on by Twitter/Facebook/Google...

People calling it censorship yesterday (on this forum) don't seem to understand the meaning of the word.

Re: Restricted by YouTube, Gun Enthusiasts Are Taking Their Videos to Pornhub

#49
post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem with fragmentation is discoverability. If all the videos are on one site you might serendipitously discover that you love shooting videos when you didn’t even know they existed. If cat videos and shooting videos are on totally separate sites then that’s much less likely to happen.

That could be solved with an aggregate search tool. Independent video providors can submit results to the video search engine. Using an integrated, distributed signon (like Blockstack or uPort), friction will again be reduced to feel like one unified system

This is good but what stops the aggregator from censoring results once it gains critical mass?

You literally just described Reddit.

Re: Restricted by YouTube, Gun Enthusiasts Are Taking Their Videos to Pornhub

#50

So will PornHub rebrand as "FreedomHub" or something or launch a similar site for those running away from YouTube for censorship issues? Now's the shot for someone to really compete with YouTube in an area where they seem to be failing.

I'm not sure that it's an area where YT is failing, as this subject has no winning scenario.

If they put restrictions on a sensitive subject, a part of the population is going to complain; if they don't, the other part will.

If they wouldn't put those restrictions, in the light of the current gun-related events, they'll just expose themselves to a string of lawsuits.

I think this is implicit in content providers with extremely large audiences, and it's quite difficult (and interesting) to assess what is failure and what success, from a business perspective.

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