Responsibility Deflected, the CLOUD Act Passes
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Re: Responsibility Deflected, the CLOUD Act Passes
#2New laws are bad laws
Re: Responsibility Deflected, the CLOUD Act Passes
#3This could be an excellent use of the Presidential veto. Whatever your political leanings, omnibus bills are a terrible outcome of the false left right paradigm. Everybody gets to toss in the stuff they "want" to support but know their constituents do not.
EFF: You wrote pages about it, but failed to mention the president still needs to sign it. It's a pretty glaring omission...
Re: Responsibility Deflected, the CLOUD Act Passes
#4This could be an excellent use of the Presidential veto. Whatever your political leanings, omnibus bills are a terrible outcome of the false left right paradigm. Everybody gets to toss in the stuff they "want" to support but know their constituents do not. EFF: You wrote pages about it, but failed to mention the president still needs to sign it. It's a pretty glaring omission...
Except Trump probably supports the CLOUD Act.
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#5This could be an excellent use of the Presidential veto. Whatever your political leanings, omnibus bills are a terrible outcome of the false left right paradigm. Everybody gets to toss in the stuff they "want" to support but know their constituents do not. EFF: You wrote pages about it, but failed to mention the president still needs to sign it. It's a pretty glaring omission...
Except Trump probably supports the CLOUD Act.
If there is anyone sticking up for sovereignty (aka borders) it's President Trump. Remember the TPP? How about his UN speech?
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#6This could be an excellent use of the Presidential veto. Whatever your political leanings, omnibus bills are a terrible outcome of the false left right paradigm. Everybody gets to toss in the stuff they "want" to support but know their constituents do not. EFF: You wrote pages about it, but failed to mention the president still needs to sign it. It's a pretty glaring omission...
Except Trump probably supports the CLOUD Act.
That's assuming he even read the briefing on it.
Re: Responsibility Deflected, the CLOUD Act Passes
#7This could be an excellent use of the Presidential veto. Whatever your political leanings, omnibus bills are a terrible outcome of the false left right paradigm. Everybody gets to toss in the stuff they "want" to support but know their constituents do not. EFF: You wrote pages about it, but failed to mention the president still needs to sign it. It's a pretty glaring omission...
> This could be an excellent use of the Presidential veto.
It would be insanity for the President to veto a spending bill needed to avert a shutdown because it included a provision the Administration has publicly supported and actively sought.
> Whatever your political leanings, omnibus bills are a terrible outcome
Omnibus spending bills are fine — the particular financial provisions of any one may be good or bad, but the concept is fine; they are a completely sensible way to set government finances rather than doing it piecemeal.
Non-germane law changes tacked on to an omnibus spending bill, especially one being passed shortly before the expiration of current spending authority, are, OTOH, a different issue.
Re: Responsibility Deflected, the CLOUD Act Passes
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
Except Trump probably supports the CLOUD Act.
If there is anyone sticking up for sovereignty (aka borders) it's President Trump. Remember the TPP? How about his UN speech?
But what this really does is lets the US government work with a foreign government to bypass US laws and process to do whatever they want to US citizens. This feature is designed to be used creatively. Trump is thrilled about it.
Re: Responsibility Deflected, the CLOUD Act Passes
#9This could be an excellent use of the Presidential veto. Whatever your political leanings, omnibus bills are a terrible outcome of the false left right paradigm. Everybody gets to toss in the stuff they "want" to support but know their constituents do not. EFF: You wrote pages about it, but failed to mention the president still needs to sign it. It's a pretty glaring omission...
Except Trump probably supports the CLOUD Act.
The Administration has backed the push for it (in part, to resolve an ongoing legal dispute with Microsoft, who also supports it), so it's pretty hard (though given Trump's other rapid reversals, not impossible) to see Trump causing a shutdown by vetoing the omnibus spending bill over it's inclusion.
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