Almost as stupid as trying to hire hackers that will agree to never consume caffeine.
The FBI Says It Can't Find Hackers to Hire Because They All Smoke Pot (2014)
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Re: The FBI Says It Can't Find Hackers to Hire Because They All Smoke Pot (2014)
#12This seems to highlight the ever present disparity between culture/society and laws that are on the books, and this is just another expression of it. Hopefully the FBI has relaxed such standards since this piece was published in 2014, but I doubt it.
It's not up to the FBI, it's up to the DEA and FDA. The FBI has to follow federal law and as long as that law says cannabis is a schedule I controlled substance there's nothing they can do about it.
It’s always up to law-enforcement, which laws they want to enforce.
Some laws are harder to enforce than others too. That’s why people drive around my town with really loud engines and the cops never do anything about it.
There are plenty of laws that the FBI does not enforce within the realm of white-collar crime.
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#13> I don't want young people to use marijuana. It's against the law. We have a three-year ban on marijuana. I did not say that I'm going to change that ban. I said I have to grapple with the change in my workforce. Do I think pot should be illegal because it already is illegal, and I'm appealing to an existing authority, or do I have a concrete argument as to why it should be illegal? Why should the opinion of any one…
"this man" is a cog in the machine, not the person who gets to decide what policy is. Because there is no such single person, it's a matter of laws passed by Congress.
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#14> I don't want young people to use marijuana. It's against the law. We have a three-year ban on marijuana. I did not say that I'm going to change that ban. I said I have to grapple with the change in my workforce. Do I think pot should be illegal because it already is illegal, and I'm appealing to an existing authority, or do I have a concrete argument as to why it should be illegal? Why should the opinion of any one…
>Making pot legal is the simplest way to solve the problem
It's getting there slowly.
Re: The FBI Says It Can't Find Hackers to Hire Because They All Smoke Pot (2014)
#15This seems to highlight the ever present disparity between culture/society and laws that are on the books, and this is just another expression of it. Hopefully the FBI has relaxed such standards since this piece was published in 2014, but I doubt it.
It's not up to the FBI, it's up to the DEA and FDA. The FBI has to follow federal law and as long as that law says cannabis is a schedule I controlled substance there's nothing they can do about it.
Well, obviously the FBI can't encourage its employees to smoke pot, but unless there's a federal regulation on drug testing, the FBI isn't forced to drug test it's employees.
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#16Weed kills motivation, hopes and dreams, and limits potential. This is true, but not universally for everyone. Some people truly do function better stoned, even perpetually as many hackers apparently are.
Numerous studies suggest clearly that long-term marijuana use reduces IQ.
Perhaps in the future we'll have customized DNA-derived profiles that accurately tell whether someone is better doing no weed, lots of weed, some weed, and so on and so forth for all chemicals. We all have unique chemical makeups, after all.
Some background: My father was an extensively published pharmaceutical (toxicology, pharmacology, brain expert) academic researcher. Drugs are entirely about dosage. The logic applies here.
FBI policy may be antiquated but does exist for a good reason. Perhaps that reason needs refinement at a societal level, through technological progress.
I do expect this comment to get downvoted. HN'ed.
Re: The FBI Says It Can't Find Hackers to Hire Because They All Smoke Pot (2014)
#17FBI is shooting itself in the foot with these sort of policies. I can understand not wanting to hire someone smoking weed on the way to an interview, but in your spare time? What about all the law enforcement staff who abuse alcohol? Alcohol's been proven to be a more dangerous substance but Congress and the scheduling system are still opposite of the data. They act like hiring those who occasionally partake in canna…
Well it's against the (Federal) law, right? And it's your job to enforce the law. Pot bans may not make sense, but it's tricky if you start openly ignoring a law. I mean it's not like they get people's personal data without a warrant or anything. :)
Re: The FBI Says It Can't Find Hackers to Hire Because They All Smoke Pot (2014)
#18When I was in college, I interviewed for an internship with the CIA. The 2012 interview was for a 2014 summer internship, and they told me I couldn’t smoke pot between now and then. Given how many talented coders I knew at Stanford who had smoked pot at least once in a year, that seemed insane to me. Instead, I went to work at Apple where people practically smoked in the office.
Given everything that we know the CIA does and has done, why did this seem like a respectable job to you? I assume you wouldn't work for organized crime.
EDIT> There's a darker part of me that would enjoy working for an intelligence agency, but I acknowledge that it's not a better part of my nature. Even if you aren't doing the torturing, or assassination, you're directly aiding the organization that is.
Re: The FBI Says It Can't Find Hackers to Hire Because They All Smoke Pot (2014)
#19When I was in college, I interviewed for an internship with the CIA. The 2012 interview was for a 2014 summer internship, and they told me I couldn’t smoke pot between now and then. Given how many talented coders I knew at Stanford who had smoked pot at least once in a year, that seemed insane to me. Instead, I went to work at Apple where people practically smoked in the office.
What if we, like, made a phone that was entirely glass? That would be so fucking cool, man.
...inside joke or something?
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#20The reason they can't hire is because it is illegal and opens you up to be compromised. It's that simple. Drug dealers can put you, your family, and work in a shitty situation because they need more money because of something happening to them.
The risk is too high for law enforcement. Once Congress changes the law they won't give a shit.