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Re: Sony beat the Apple TV without Google TV

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Post by hexley » Sun, Sep 05, 2010, 6:36 PM UTC

ajaimk wrote: post #40

naelshawwa wrote: post #28

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you're missing the point I think, and so did the Author of this post. Its not about the bells and whistles, or features that came built in. Its about the apps that YOU may want to install on it, and not what the manufacturer gets to say you'll get. Who cares if the Sony Bravia has Netflix, YouTube, Pandora and even Hulu bundled in if the Apple TV or Google TV will allow you to install the apps you want. Just like wha…

Not at all. If you see the direction that Apple has gone with the Apple TV, you will know that an App Store won't work there. It doesn't have any hard disk to work off of.

It would still have a good 8-16GB of flash onboard.

Re: Sony beat the Apple TV without Google TV

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Post by petercooper » Sun, Sep 05, 2010, 10:52 PM UTC

refulgentis wrote: post #27

petercooper wrote: post #25

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I think they already announced that, actually (?): http://www.apple.com/ipad/software-update/

It's definitely in Apple apps, and I imagine that 3rd party apps will get it for "free" using the standard media player classes. The issue is if apps could send arbitrary video data, because then your $99 Apple TV turns into a game console if you have an iPod touch.

Good point - that would be like the VGA adapter. It'd be like having a DS where the top screen could be 30 inches or more.. :-)

Re: Sony beat the Apple TV without Google TV

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Post by naelshawwa » Sun, Sep 05, 2010, 11:13 PM UTC

ajaimk wrote: post #40

naelshawwa wrote: post #28

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you're missing the point I think, and so did the Author of this post. Its not about the bells and whistles, or features that came built in. Its about the apps that YOU may want to install on it, and not what the manufacturer gets to say you'll get. Who cares if the Sony Bravia has Netflix, YouTube, Pandora and even Hulu bundled in if the Apple TV or Google TV will allow you to install the apps you want. Just like wha…

Not at all. If you see the direction that Apple has gone with the Apple TV, you will know that an App Store won't work there. It doesn't have any hard disk to work off of.

Right now it doesn't, but first gen iphone didn't have an app store either. Maybe the apps can be streamed from the iPad or iPhone? who knows how they're planning it, but one thing for sure you'll be able to see apps on your TV. Regardless of how they do it, I just think it won't be about the bells and whistles TV manufacturers can bundle in their TV in a few years.

Re: Sony beat the Apple TV without Google TV

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Post by naelshawwa » Sun, Sep 05, 2010, 11:14 PM UTC

hexley wrote: post #41

ajaimk wrote: post #40

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Not at all. If you see the direction that Apple has gone with the Apple TV, you will know that an App Store won't work there. It doesn't have any hard disk to work off of.

It would still have a good 8-16GB of flash onboard.

I didn't see that in the specs. But anyway adding a hard drive to it won't be that expensive for a later gen.

Re: Sony beat the Apple TV without Google TV

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Post by naelshawwa » Sun, Sep 05, 2010, 11:25 PM UTC

ThomPete wrote: post #39

naelshawwa wrote: post #37

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The iPhone worked because of the app store, not because of the touch screen or the phone, or any "consumer friendliness" The app store worked because of the thousands of developers that built apps for the iphone. That is what I'm saying. Don't take "developers" to mean just "coder". I look at it as anybody who is actually involved in building the application, ex. designer, tester, coder, etc. etc. Look around you, Fa…

To me the iPhone and the app store are synonymous so I don't disagree with you. But the app store wasn't there to begin with remember. And it's not what Balmer meant when he said the 3D's. That it takes developers to build these things is obvious, just as obvious as it takes engineers to build cars. But it's not engineers engineers engineers. That's all I am saying.

yeah the app store wasn't, and I don't know how successful the iPhone would have been if it weren't but it would have still been revolutionary though.

>>That it takes developers to build these things is obvious, >>just as obvious as it takes engineers to build cars. But >>it's not engineers engineers engineers. Lol. Okay thats not a fair analogy. You build a parking garage, and you'll scream for "cars, cars, cars, cars". You build an airport and you'll scream for "planes, planes, planes, planes". Now when you build a platform like the app store, or the android market place, you'll scream for...

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