Would be funny to track how many of them will post to facebook about it. And then how many will relapse a month later. And then how many of them will come back to post about how their 1 week without facebook went.
Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings
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Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings
#282The question is - will this be just a minor blip to Facebook and then normal services will resume after the indignation wears off? Or will it the beginning of the end of the social media dominance of the platform? For me personally, I use FB primarily to keep in touch with friends, family and old colleagues who are spread all over the world. It is purely a contact tool, and not really used to market products of servi…
I hope I'm wrong but I think this in no way bringing facebook down. Keeping in touch with friends & family is too important to ditch entirely, and having everyone switch to a different platform is very hard. That said, my whole extended family uses whats app nowadays...
> Keeping in touch with friends & family is too important to ditch entirely, and having everyone switch to a different platform is very hard.
I have good friends who would rather drop contact entirely than having to have an account on website that is not at least deeply privacy-conscious. In this sense I would rather claim that whether this statement holds or not strongly depends on the kinds of persons that your social circle contains.
Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings
#283The question is - will this be just a minor blip to Facebook and then normal services will resume after the indignation wears off? Or will it the beginning of the end of the social media dominance of the platform? For me personally, I use FB primarily to keep in touch with friends, family and old colleagues who are spread all over the world. It is purely a contact tool, and not really used to market products of servi…
I mean do we really think Facebook is the only company with data problems? Is switching to something different really going to make a difference? Deleting your Facebook won't get rid of your data. Google, Microsoft, Twitter, your ISP, your cell carrier all have so much data on you. At this point you are out there in someone's database somewhere. Unless you haven't been on the grid at all which clearly anyone on HN is…
The point, I think, is to send a message. Yes, the damage is done. But public pressure to #DeleteFacebook might force Facebook to be a little less cavalier with billions of people's personal data, respect previous agreements with the FTC [0], etc. in the future.
[0] https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/2011/11/faceb...
Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings
#284Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Reach out to people other ways for events. It's the other way around, he's being reached by other people through FB. What good would it do to make an account where his friends are not?
I would not call people friends if they can't take the little inconvenience to text me to invite me somewhere if I don't use Facebook.
As a long-time human, who's worked with a lot of humans, I'd advise you not to underestimate the power of trivial inconveniences.
Rational, perfectly selfish agents in an environment of frictionless transactions might still invite me to events if I were off their social media platform. Humans will not.
Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings
#285First, I think what happened with Facebook/Cambridge Analytica is appalling. With that said, I think this article is silly and emblematic of poor technology coverage in the media.
I think it would be awesome if users really did delete their facebook accounts if they thought these actions crossed some line. But the article cites ~50,000 #deletefacebook mentions. Come on, 50k hashtag shares is evidence of "Users Abandon..."? it then proceeds to document case studies of people leaving. The article title would imply that users truly did see this action as a last straw and are leaving in droves, and it seems that is the narrative that the writer wanted to write about.
Is that truly happening though? I'd love to see the data, but I don't think they will delete their accounts. Why would the writer elect to write an article fitting a narrative for which there is little data? Surely, the more interesting article would be "Are users deleting their accounts? Why not?" That I would read and find interesting.
Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings
#286The question is - will this be just a minor blip to Facebook and then normal services will resume after the indignation wears off? Or will it the beginning of the end of the social media dominance of the platform? For me personally, I use FB primarily to keep in touch with friends, family and old colleagues who are spread all over the world. It is purely a contact tool, and not really used to market products of servi…
I mean do we really think Facebook is the only company with data problems? Is switching to something different really going to make a difference? Deleting your Facebook won't get rid of your data. Google, Microsoft, Twitter, your ISP, your cell carrier all have so much data on you. At this point you are out there in someone's database somewhere. Unless you haven't been on the grid at all which clearly anyone on HN is…
I think it's better for 10 different companies to each have 1/10th of your data rather than one company having all of it. Facebook has grown to the point where they're just too big. They have pretty much every person I've ever known as a user. Those users have the app (or multiple apps) installed on their phones, upload all their photos, do much of their messaging, plan their events, etc. within Facebook. Plus Facebook owns a bunch of other properties with huge user bases.
The potential for abuse is smaller if we use independent services for all of those different things, even if those services aren't any more trustworthy than Facebook.
Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings
#287Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Reach out to people other ways for events. It's the other way around, he's being reached by other people through FB. What good would it do to make an account where his friends are not?
Surely the reason he is being invited is not because he has an account on an online platform. We are in a hyperconnected world where an infinite number of ways to communicate exist. You don't need to rely on a single closed-garden platform for communication. F*book sole purpose as a corporation is built around harvesting as much personal data about you as possible and selling it to the highest and most nefarious bidd…
As someone who never had an FB account, I can assure you I've missed multiple events over the years over this. People simply forget that I don't have an account.
Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings
#288I've had a dormant FB account for years. I don't like the site and I never add content. I believe that social media has become a net detractor to quality-of-life for many (most?) humans who use it. I think Mark Zuckerberg is either incredibly naive, or a sleaze bag, but in either case should suffer some consequences from this. That said, I probably won't delete my account. It remains the only way many of my friends p…
I am sure that MZ is the latter. F*book is a farce. You are the problem. Be the change you want to see. Reach out to people other ways for events. FFS, you are connected 24x7 to the internet, not facebook exclusively, never in the history of humanity have we had this level of instantaneous hyperconnection, that excuse is a lie.
It surprises me how many people assume that Zuckerberg is evil. I've never seen any convincing evidence of him being anything other than a relatively regular guy in an extremely unique circumstance.
What makes you so sure he's a sleazebag?
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#289Earlier quoted context omitted.
You might have missed the short opportunity. Better go long on whatever you think might pick up the slack. I don’t think the void that Facebook leaves will be left unfilled.
If the replacement is a federated social network, then there may be 2/3 large competing players for the interfacing part. My dream is a cryptocurrency based social network, so that those running p2p nodes can also get paid. Also the end clients can compete with each other for the interface part - dumb/some-algo based (Facebook can also be one of the clients ;-))
Proof of Stake, then? Blockchain pays you in coins that are earned randomly by hosting a node? The node would need to then be part of a big distributed file system since any even halfway decent social network would be way too large to host at home. I don't mind the idea, but where does the value of the coin come from? do you have to buy one to join? do you need to rent a coin to have access to the account? Social networks are subscriptions (or they should be, since the costs of hosting are recurrent), so what would the economic model be in "mining" and hosting one? What would give the token a value?
Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings
#290Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Reach out to people other ways for events. It's the other way around, he's being reached by other people through FB. What good would it do to make an account where his friends are not?
I would not call people friends if they can't take the little inconvenience to text me to invite me somewhere if I don't use Facebook.
Sounds like a semantic nitpick. The point doesn't change if they're acquaintances instead.