Is a business model built on people's ignorance of ad-blockers really reliable?
Do ad-blockers now also block video-ads in youtube?
YouTube Will ‘Frustrate’ Some Users with Ads So They Pay for Music
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#122I use youtube for music in the car on the way to work and during work hours (which I have an adblocker for). Two experiences I'd like to relate, In the car, music being interrupted more often with annoying ads. Even more so in the last 3 months. Some ads even asking me to take a survey in the youtube app. This annoys me and makes me hate using youtube. Often will make me switch to using bandcamp (which I purchase mus…
Depends how you define "worked for them". Spotify is still not working profitable to this day.
Since the music industry sets arbitary rates for Spotify, it cannot be profitable for any significant period of time - the rates will rise to make it break-even again.
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#123This is why I still maintain a digital music library -- backed by a physical media collection that sits in my real live analog house -- that I sync to an SD card in my phone. In 2018, Bandcamp seems to have solved the digital music sales problem that the iTunes music store never could (DRM-free album downloads in lossless formats for less than the retail price of the CD or LP). Everything that isn't there can usually…
I do this too. Not only do you save money by not subscribing to streaming services each month; chances are that you can downgrade your data plan as well. The money I save I spend on CDs.
Yeah, I use about a gig of data a month. All of my music is stored on my car.
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#124I have been paying for YouTube Red since 2015. I really like the YouTube Music app and how I can save songs for offline use, and how it's kept up-to-date with songs I like on YouTube (as well as recommended suggestions) whenever my phone goes on WiFi, so my playlist never gets old. You also get other perks like keeping a YouTube video playing in the background on your phone. I prefer using YouTube for music as oppose…
> Since I pay for YouTube Red, I don't get ads. I think the cost justifies it. Since I have started using ad blockers I don't get ads neither. > Shouldn't you be paying for services you appreciate? Sure, but if 'lacks advertisement' is the selling point then it sounds like a bad joke that I don't get.
You are using Adblockers to circumvent the primary means of making money on YouTube while enjoying the services for free. Sooner or later, they will block you from using the application.
"Lacks Advertisement" is not the main point. It's one of the points. Ability to play music in the background is one big advantage.
I am waiting for YouTube Red to come to my country. It's one more subscription to add to my already big list of subscriptions. But for now, I can see the value in it.
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uBlock and youtube-dl is the poor mans alternative. But I suppose it will not work so well on a phone.
uBlock works on a phone on Firefox (on Android). There's also NewPipe: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.schabi.newpipe/
Unfortunately videos now stop playing when you turn off the screen with Firefox for Android, so you drain battery faster if you just want to listen.
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Not if you're the actual monopoly because of network effects. I'd have thought network effects are exactly why companies on the internet can't mess around with their users. If a few people start using another site and share it with their friends, the rest could all follow very quickly.
Youtube does have a big advantage of video being too large to move around quickly. It would take quite some time to bootstrap a new video service with even a remotely comparable catalog.
Not to mention 10 years worth of archived videos that will be lost (and are currently lost due to censoring and de-ranking).
Youtube at this point is like the Library of Alexandria, but they just decided to burn down half the books and replace the index with a list of their favorite ones. You can read books for free, but they inject advertisements between paragraphs.
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or, or, hear me out... I could use adblock, a free and crowd-sourced adblocker, to... block the ads. YouTube already makes copious amounts of money outside of advertising and Red exclusivity. don't force that kind of an annoyance on people if you expect them to A) use your service or B) not subvert the crap you put in front of them. there is no argument for ads anymore.
Youtube could make their ads unblockable by putting them in the content's video stream or just serving them from the same domain. I feel like they don't do that just as a way to be nice to adblockers, but I don't know why.
They are doing it already, if I block googlevideo.com, the videos don't play.
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uBlock works on a phone on Firefox (on Android). There's also NewPipe: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.schabi.newpipe/
Unfortunately videos now stop playing when you turn off the screen with Firefox for Android, so you drain battery faster if you just want to listen.
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#129I am all the more disposed to tolerate a little more advertising on the youtube site since youtube kindly tolerates download with youtube-dl --extract-audio --audio-format mp3 --output "%(title)s.%(ext)s" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxx
you can also
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Frankly, I'm moving back to vinyl. I'm aware that most albums have finally been properly remastered to be in a digital format, eliminating the disparity in sound quality, but I feel like something purely analog with zero possibility of any DRM is more permanent, crazy as that may sound. Plus, Bandcamp is nice. Artists I've discovered through there frequently have a vinyl pressing available, which entitles me to downl…
Have you ever found vinyl sounding different from its CD equivalent due to the equipment you play it on? The few vinyl rips I have seem to have issues like a high noise floor (hearing the amplified sound of the needle pushing the vinyl during supposed silence, as well as random pops). I am curious to know if that's seen as a feature and not a bug.
That sounds like vinyl crackle. It's such a sought after thing that people make entire sample libraries of it.