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Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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"The hashtag #DeleteFacebook appeared more than 10,000 times on Twitter within a two-hour period on Wednesday, according to the analytics service ExportTweet. On Tuesday, it was mentioned 40,398 times, according to the analytics service Digimind." Is this really such a big deal for Facebook? Suppose 50000 persons delete their Facebook everyday, then it will just lose 1,825,0000 users one year, not counting new users…

> And Facebook has 2 billion users. I simply do not believe 1/3 of the planet is on Facebook. I am not. Half of the planet does not have access to clean drinking water, I do not believe they are on Facebook either.

nitpick: World population is currently about 7.4 billion.

Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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post #72

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It will be a minor blip. Most users are utterly addicted and don't value their privacy over their convenience despite what they say. I deleted my account in 2010 and there was absolutely no change in my daily behavior, but then I wasn't a chronic addict either. Honestly, if users haven't figure out by now that their privacy is utterly void when they use Facebook they absolutely don't care.

> don't value their privacy over their convenience For lots of people, it's "don't value their privacy over being able to keep in touch with friends and family", not merely convenience.

TBH my observation is that for many it's just engaging in stupid circlejerks and flamewars with strangers and post glorified "good morning" messages and celebrations and congratulations.

Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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post #74

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I am sure that MZ is the latter. F*book is a farce. You are the problem. Be the change you want to see. Reach out to people other ways for events. FFS, you are connected 24x7 to the internet, not facebook exclusively, never in the history of humanity have we had this level of instantaneous hyperconnection, that excuse is a lie.

> Reach out to people other ways for events. It's the other way around, he's being reached by other people through FB. What good would it do to make an account where his friends are not?

I would not call people friends if they can't take the little inconvenience to text me to invite me somewhere if I don't use Facebook.

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I don’t care much about what platforms other people use. My preference is paying for services. While I use DuckDuckGo, I am an enthusiastic Google customer for GCP, Google Play books/movies/tv shows, premium music with no ads YouTube.

I would like to use Twitter more, but I don’t like the ads. I would gladly pay $50/year for ad free Twitter. I like Gnu Social, but not enough like-minded people to follow.

I spend 20 minutes a month in FaceBook, but jump through hoops not to be tracked.

Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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The question is - will this be just a minor blip to Facebook and then normal services will resume after the indignation wears off? Or will it the beginning of the end of the social media dominance of the platform? For me personally, I use FB primarily to keep in touch with friends, family and old colleagues who are spread all over the world. It is purely a contact tool, and not really used to market products of servi…

Minor blip for sure. There's a media frenzy, but I only personally know two people who are even talking about it, and even they're not totally sold on jumping ship just yet. They've also known better than to post personal information on there (and I've posted bogus personal information just to mess with FB, which I heartily recommend to everyone. False information is better for your privacy than no information).

Yes, even my developer friends mostly have no idea something is hapenning.

Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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I don’t care much about what platforms other people use. My preference is paying for services. While I use DuckDuckGo, I am an enthusiastic Google customer for GCP, Google Play books/movies/tv shows, premium music with no ads YouTube. I would like to use Twitter more, but I don’t like the ads. I would gladly pay $50/year for ad free Twitter. I like Gnu Social, but not enough like-minded people to follow. I spend 20 m…

I use Tweetbot on my Mac for Twitter and don't get ads. I imagine the same probably applies to other third-party Twitter apps too.

Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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The question is - will this be just a minor blip to Facebook and then normal services will resume after the indignation wears off? Or will it the beginning of the end of the social media dominance of the platform? For me personally, I use FB primarily to keep in touch with friends, family and old colleagues who are spread all over the world. It is purely a contact tool, and not really used to market products of servi…

> The hashtag #DeleteFacebook appeared more than 10,000 times on Twitter within a two-hour period on Wednesday, according to the analytics service ExportTweet. On Tuesday, it was mentioned 40,398 times, according to the analytics service Digimind.

The media have been pumping out a lot of articles, but 40,000 tweets is really nothing.

Facebook has 2.2 billion monthly active users - that's 75% of all humans who have internet access. I think Facebook will probably exist for the rest of human history. They'll be a multiplanetary social network, and they'll probably still be running when the sun becomes a red giant.

Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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I don’t care much about what platforms other people use. My preference is paying for services. While I use DuckDuckGo, I am an enthusiastic Google customer for GCP, Google Play books/movies/tv shows, premium music with no ads YouTube. I would like to use Twitter more, but I don’t like the ads. I would gladly pay $50/year for ad free Twitter. I like Gnu Social, but not enough like-minded people to follow. I spend 20 m…

Are you sure those companies aren't still selling your data? Especially in your example of youtube premium... I'd imagine youtube is selling the data about which videos you liked, watched, etc. The premium part may just be that you don't see any ads

Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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> The question is - will this be just a minor blip to Facebook and then normal services will resume after the indignation wears off? Or will it the beginning of the end of the social media dominance of the platform? I'd bet my house it is the former. I think on HN we understandably make assumptions about the general population due to the bubble we live in. The reactions to other privacy scandals e.g. wikileaks or Sno…

I suppose it all depends on how much user attrition you would say constitutes a "mass exodus." How many millions of former users would that be? Or what percentage from what high-point? By these following reports, there's been a mass exodus in terms of usage among the much-sought-after teenage demographic, and that's been happening from Facebook to Snapchat for at least two years now: Oct 2016: Snapchat Beats Instagra…

Sure, I agree that "mass exodus" is ill-defined. I have nothing to back this up, but I think we can both agree that it is extremely unlikely Cambridge Analytica really has anything to do with the teenagers preferring Snapchat to Facebook.

Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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post #248

I don’t care much about what platforms other people use. My preference is paying for services. While I use DuckDuckGo, I am an enthusiastic Google customer for GCP, Google Play books/movies/tv shows, premium music with no ads YouTube. I would like to use Twitter more, but I don’t like the ads. I would gladly pay $50/year for ad free Twitter. I like Gnu Social, but not enough like-minded people to follow. I spend 20 m…

Are you sure those companies aren't still selling your data? Especially in your example of youtube premium... I'd imagine youtube is selling the data about which videos you liked, watched, etc. The premium part may just be that you don't see any ads

I don't think Google "sells" any data at all. They use data they have to sell advertising space, and in the case of Youtube I'm sure they use it to inform different platform decisions, but it doesn't ever leave Google.

Their huge amount of data is their strongest competitive advantage.

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