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Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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Post by alkonaut »

eric_b wrote: post #47

I've had a dormant FB account for years. I don't like the site and I never add content. I believe that social media has become a net detractor to quality-of-life for many (most?) humans who use it. I think Mark Zuckerberg is either incredibly naive, or a sleaze bag, but in either case should suffer some consequences from this. That said, I probably won't delete my account. It remains the only way many of my friends p…

Same here. I probably gave FB way too much information over the early years, but I can't see what difference a dormant FB account with occasional event planning activity does over deleting it outright. It's not like you can ever "delete" your FB account anyway.

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Post by alkonaut »

some_random wrote: post #48
kercker wrote: post #25

"The hashtag #DeleteFacebook appeared more than 10,000 times on Twitter within a two-hour period on Wednesday, according to the analytics service ExportTweet. On Tuesday, it was mentioned 40,398 times, according to the analytics service Digimind." Is this really such a big deal for Facebook? Suppose 50000 persons delete their Facebook everyday, then it will just lose 1,825,0000 users one year, not counting new users…

But, how many of those people are active to any meaningful extent? Also, Facebook relies on a critical mass of users; if 75% of my friends leave, I'll probably leave, then large swaths of the social networks begins unthreading?

If even 10% of my friends weren't there, I couldn't be planning events there for example. If you have to call or email a subset of people you might as well choose a different way of planning (e.g. invite people via email to a dedicated planning service).

So to me the value is that everyone I know is there. Not just 95% but 99%. So if even a fraction left, I could much easier just leave. My "social circle" on facebook could quickly just disappear, and I suspect this goes for lots of other people. Because the strength of facebook is that every social group is connected - but that will be how the cancer spreads too.

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Post by JetSpiegel »

eevilspock wrote: post #186
brylie wrote: post #183

This is a good opportunity to join and/or recommend decentralized networks, like Mastadon: https://joinmastodon.org/ https://instances.social/

"Private posts are not encrypted. Make sure you trust your instance admin not to just read your private posts on the back-end. Do not say anything you would not want potentially intercepted." fatal flaw.

Well, it's not worse than Facebook, since you can choose what instance you use. Choose an instance ran by someone you trust.

Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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Post by alkonaut »

patrickdavey wrote: post #160

Anyone on here is probably one of the tech influencers for their family group. I've just started the work of trying to get people to move onto using Signal. I really really like the ethos of the organisation. I don't see how there's any downside (other than the time of getting people to switch). Wouldn't it be great if, as a start, everyone moved to a secure not-going-to-sell-your-data organisation for instant messag…

> I've just started the work of trying to get people to move onto using Signal.

The first question my friends would ask is "I tried signal but I couldn't see a way of posting photos and getting likes...or planning an event. It doesn't look like facebook at all, just a chat app!

Facebook the platform is so extremely large and so useful to so many. Most people (including me!) would struggle to set up a photo album from my vacation that my friends and family can see and comment on, but other people can not.

Any serios attempt at displacing facebook needs to solve ALL of the things facebook solves. And unfortunately while solving them separately (one chat app, one photo app, one calendar app...) is much better for integrity - it's almost useless from a usability standpoint to have to manage multiple social graphs.

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Post by [deleted] »

gowld wrote: post #153
fwgwgwgch wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> buzz feed Since you are as surprised as I was a month back, I've looked further and concluded that buzz feed actually funds very high quality journalism (yes yes shocking I know) and presents facts from both sides. They do it using the money generated from click baits. I'd even make what will sound like a hyperbole , if you are the sort that wants truth on both sides of political spectrum and not just an echo chamb…

> both sides. There are more than 2 sides to a story.

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Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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Post by juststeve »

freyir wrote: post #173
juststeve wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you got a link?

https://info.internet.org/en/story/free-basics-from-internet... I don’t know if they have “monopolies”, as OP claimed, but these are the countries where they operate: https://info.internet.org/en/story/where-weve-launched/

ok thanks yeah i get the vibe

Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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Post by PeterStuer »

I personally stopped using Facebook as an experiment in September of last year. The idea was to go 1 month without the social network. After the month was over, I never went back.

This wasn't about the data sharing. I was aware of this all along. I also didn't delete my account. All data 'breached' has been sucked out long ago. It was just that I realized Facebook made me feel worse. I was constantly engaged with championing causes I feel passionate about. However, I did realize that for all my activity I achieved fairly little, and that the daily 'triggers' and 'write-offs' didn't function as a relieve, but rather as a self-reinforcing of a feeling of perpetual anger and discomfort.

I do miss some of the social interactions with friends and acquaintances with whom FB was the only link left. I kept Messenger and occasionally use that still to communicate more directly.

I don't think I will go back to FB (or similar social networks), even if they would solve the 'privacy' issues. I currently feel this type of 'long distance/low threshold' social paradigm is more harmful than beneficial to our psychological makeup.

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Post by wheresvic1 »

Users leaving the platform is definitely a dent in Facebook's image.

However, I'm pretty sure that at the end of the day if companies start withdrawing their funding for Facebook ads, the platform's shine will drop sharply.

So far apart from Mozilla, there really hasn't been any comment from the corporate side. I suppose it's a bit of the chicken and the egg problem - Fb has a lot of data so companies want targeted advertising and companies paying for it leads Fb to collect data.

Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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Post by wellboy »

joering2 wrote: post #106
eric_b wrote: post #47

I've had a dormant FB account for years. I don't like the site and I never add content. I believe that social media has become a net detractor to quality-of-life for many (most?) humans who use it. I think Mark Zuckerberg is either incredibly naive, or a sleaze bag, but in either case should suffer some consequences from this. That said, I probably won't delete my account. It remains the only way many of my friends p…

> I think Mark Zuckerberg is either incredibly naive, or a sleaze bag Hmm typically when someone says that people are "dumb fucks" it usually means they are simply incredibly naive /s

Or he lacks the social awareness, introspectiveness to see how his product has a negative impact.
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