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Now would be a good time for Mark Zuckerberg to resign

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Re: Now would be a good time for Mark Zuckerberg to resign

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> Attempts to make Facebook an infrastructure provider have arguably so far failed Adding to this list how failed to us with Parse.com

Yeah.. the feels. For a hot second I thought Parse would get a shoutout when it mentioned Facebook's attempt to be an infrastructure provider.

Re: Now would be a good time for Mark Zuckerberg to resign

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post #14

This is hysteria. You people are crazy. This is not nearly that big of a deal. I beg my fellow hacker news readers, get ahold of yourselves. This is a stellar opportunity for this community to have some introspection. Are we capable of it? These kinds of posts are a mirror to what we badly want to be true, whether it is actually true or not. We, apparently, badly want Facebook and even moreso Mark Zuckerberg to fail.…

I think you have a good point - there are plenty of people who would love for Facebook to fail, and for something better to take its place. The promise of Facebook was great but it has nothing to do with the website anymore. They’ve paywalled and gatekept catching up with people with their network effect, to the point that a lot of reasonable people don’t think it’s worth the price. In a sense, Facebook has taken something away by changing people’s social behavior to feed their ad network.

But then, I’m one person and not all hacker news readers.

Re: Now would be a good time for Mark Zuckerberg to resign

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I want to keep Facebook only to be connected with my friends. But I do not want to see their status updates. I just want to be digitally connected with them so that I can contact them. Instead of seeing their photos/posts, I would rather like to talk to them personally. I always think about pre-facebook era and want to go back again to those times.

Install the Messenger app, delete the Facebook app. There you go.

Re: Now would be a good time for Mark Zuckerberg to resign

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The article goes on and on to describe how Facebook has tried to do and be many things that it wasn't before, and how it has failed in those attempts to expand beyond a basic social network.

Fine, let's assume that that's true. Facebook did indeed do some useless things. But how is this a reason for its CEO to resign? Facebook did nothing wrong! Yes they failed to become better, and their platform became bloated, but so does every other platform in the world at the moment. But since when is failing to become better now suddenly a really good incentive for it to buckle down completely like the article is suggesting?

I feel the article's argumentation is completely unsound. Premises I have no say about, but its conclusion definitely doesn't follow from those premises.

The author didn't even rein in the privacy stories that are all over the news suddenly. Now that would give their argument leverage, but they didn't.

Go hate Facebook all you like, I do too, but this article doesn't make sense and doesn't deserve to give a reason for you to hate the company or its CEO.

Re: Now would be a good time for Mark Zuckerberg to resign

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Rather: Now would be a good time for Facebook users to resign. Zuck is doing exactly the same things when he started Facebook. It’s the users; The users that need to leave the platform. Does anyone really believe that a FB without Zuckerberg will all of a sudden be great for people? Reporters like these should inform users better about how their data is being used and how they can change things for themselves by simp…

I've been wanting to delete my FB account for years. Stupid me has it connected to a bunch of other services though by using single sign on feautures... Most used of those services is Spotify and they still don't offer a way to disconnect Facebook from the account.

Re: Now would be a good time for Mark Zuckerberg to resign

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post #15

At this point I've hidden at least 10 threads relating to this. I'm starting to think that this is a coordinated PR "attack" on facebook.

Facebook has made enemies in very powerful entities. News agencies, governments, google. It's not surprising to witness this unjustified onslaught.

Re: Now would be a good time for Mark Zuckerberg to resign

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I want to keep Facebook only to be connected with my friends. But I do not want to see their status updates. I just want to be digitally connected with them so that I can contact them. Instead of seeing their photos/posts, I would rather like to talk to them personally. I always think about pre-facebook era and want to go back again to those times.

Have you tried an address book?

Re: Now would be a good time for Mark Zuckerberg to resign

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Barring egregious criminality, it doesn't make sense for someone who took a company from nothing (well, maybe a concept pioneered by Friendster and its antecedents) to $500 billion in market cap to suddenly resign.

I feel this Cambridge Analytica story is a bit overblown. When the whistleblower says “target their inner demons”, he is just referring to campaigns placing Facebook Ads with certain parameters about who should see them.

Now the question of political targeting data being re-​purposed from a personality quiz app, and issues of data privacy in general, are worth investigating. But the fall in Facebook stock price is a giant overreaction (unless the story invites legal regulation.)

The shock of Trump’s election and Brexit have prompted more scrutiny of social media, which is warranted. But there’s a limit to the benefit of worrying about Youtube algorithms, Facebook targeting, and Russian trolls. Changing the political situation will mostly require old-fashioned door-to-door politics.

Re: Now would be a good time for Mark Zuckerberg to resign

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post #26

Rather: Now would be a good time for Facebook users to resign. Zuck is doing exactly the same things when he started Facebook. It’s the users; The users that need to leave the platform. Does anyone really believe that a FB without Zuckerberg will all of a sudden be great for people? Reporters like these should inform users better about how their data is being used and how they can change things for themselves by simp…

I've been wanting to delete my FB account for years. Stupid me has it connected to a bunch of other services though by using single sign on feautures... Most used of those services is Spotify and they still don't offer a way to disconnect Facebook from the account.

You can use some other streaming service if you really want to ditch fb. And let spotify know why when you cancel.
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